Z Live: Off The Record W/ Zhivargo Laing - April 16 2026

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM streaming on guardiantalkradio.com and the Guardian Radio app, Nassau, Bahamas. The views and opinions of the hosts and guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the management and staff of Guardian Radio. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid to take a stand. Take a stand everybody. [00:00:31] Speaker B: This is the. [00:00:37] Speaker A: Live off the record with chicago line is brought to you by bahamas first general insurance co. Burger king, the cleveland clinic, commonwealth bank, the free national movement, ko productions, marcos pizza printmasters, the progressive liberal party, rf banking trust bronze electric motors and star general insurance made simple foreign. Welcome ladies and gentlemen to Z Live. I'm Chivago Lang, your host. So glad you could join us here today on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM on this beautiful Thursday afternoon. It is April 16th, it is nomination day in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. And so all of the candidates hoping to contest in the next election on May 12 nominating today. If you want to give us a call today on the show, the numbers remain the same. The numbers are 323-6232. That's 323-6232-5431-6325-4316, or 325-4259. That's 325-4259. You can call us from the Family Islands on 242-3005-724230-05720. You can text us on 422-4796. That's 422-4796. So you can WhatsApp me on 439-304-3439-3043. We are live on Cable Bahamas Channel 969 or you can catch us on PTC Flow Channel 61 2. That's BTC Flow Channel 61 2. What an exciting day. So I flew in from Fort Lauderdale today, this morning, made my way in through the airport and I can tell you people are talking about the elections. The Amy's are talking about the elections. While I was passing through, an immigration officer made some comments to me while I was moving out of the airport. While I was on the plane, a couple of young Bahamians from Abaco were talking to me about the elections. When I was renting my car, people was talking to me about the elections. So people are talking about the election nomination day. People were looking to see who had impressive nomination crowds. We there were motorcades and I got caught in one or two but thank God the side road was in a way out. So I didn't have to get caught up for too long. Now I have not seen. So I Facebook to see the. I'm gonna get to talking to you all, but a matter that came up now I'm getting up to it. So I was on Facebook just, you know, because sometimes people, they like to post on Facebook what's happening. So I was looking at some of the nomination photos and nomination videos and stuff like that. A number of the candidates I saw had what I would regard as mediocre nomination presentations, meaning the crowd was not impressive, not very, you know, animated, jubilant, etc. A few of them did stand out to me, though. A few of them did. A few of them did stand out to me. Owen Wells had an impressive crowd, from what I could tell. Oh, and Owen Wells did. Michael Pintad had an impressive crowd, from what I could tell, what I saw. Fred Mitchell had an impressive presentation for what I could do other than. Other than no one else really stood out from what I saw. And I didn't see everybody. There are lots of people I did not see. So don't nobody get mad with me because your people might have had wonderful crowds. And I didn't see it. It wasn't on Facebook. I can't be everywhere, so I could only know what is put out there. Those are some impressive presentations I saw. But people ain't joking in this season of election and it seems like an issue has arisen with respect to the nomination of qualifications of Sebast Bastian. And I'll tell you what is being alleged there, okay? Our constitution provides the grounds to qualify to be a member of the House of Assembly and saving. And except you meet those qualifications, you are not eligible. You are to be elected as a member of the office of assembly. So if you don't have these qualifications, it don't make no sense. You even nominate because you can't be elected. That's what the constitution says. This is in. In. In. In section 47 of the Constitution it says this clause 47 says, Subject to the provisions of Article 48 of this Constitution, a person shall be qualified to be elected as a member of the House of Assembly if and shall not be qualified to be so elected, unless you have to be a citizen and you have to be at least 21 years of age, right? You have to have ordinarily resided in the Bahamas for a period of less than one year immediately before the date of his nomination for election. So if you were not. So that's April 16th. If you were not ordinarily residing in the Bahamas between today and today, then you can't be nominated. You cannot be elected to the House of Assembly. And then it goes on in clause 48, subsection 1 to say, no person shall be qualified to be elected as a member of the House of Assembly who is a citizen of another country, but provided he's a citizen of that country, haven't been so voluntarily. That's an important word. Some of you all missed that. Meaning if you came by way of citizenship in another country because your parents were citizens and so you just automatically got it that way, or you were born in a country even though you still obey the citizenship you can, you are still eligible to be, to run an election. So I hear some people talking nonsense, talking about, oh, you got to prove that you have renounced this and renounced that. That is not true. It doesn't say that you cannot be a dual citizen and run for the House of Assembly. That is not true. It says if you have another citizenship, that you came in voluntarily, meaning you applied for it and you agreed to it. That's different. You can please do so if you have agents to another country. So maybe you, you know, you took some pledge of loyalty for the purposes of spying, for the purposes of commercial injury, whatever it is, that's a problem. And it goes on to say a number of things. I don't want to go into all of them, but what I wanted to get to is the one that people are suggesting is problematic for Sebast Bastian and may be problematic for others. Of course, you know, Sebastian has an interest in companies that he's a shareholder of. He has a beneficial interest in companies that have contracts with the government. But this is what section 40, this is what clause 48, subsection 1J, says of the Constitution, that a person is not qualified to be elected to the House of Assembly who is interested in any government contract and has not disclosed the nature of such contract and of his interest therein by publishing a notice in the gazette within one month before the day of election. So election is May 12th. Okay, if you, this is how I read it. If you don't publish in the Gazette within a month of May 12, so that'll take you back to about April 12. It's if you don't do it, then you can. You're not eligible to be elected. Okay, you're not eligible to be elected. So the question is, does he have an interest in any government contract? Did he disclose the nature of such contract and the nature of his interest? And has he published Such by notice in that one month before the day of election. Okay, that's the issue. Now for some people, this is straightforward. I must tell you it's not straightforward. For me it's not because, you know, lawyers is passwords and lawyers might say, well, does this say, does this say who has an interest in a government contract or who is interested in a government contract? Are they the same things? Who has an interest versus who is interested in. So if I just look at it in the ordinary meaning of the word, of the words is interested in, the question is futuristic. It's do you seek to get a government contract? So that's not current. That's about what you aspire to do. In the ordinary meaning of those words. Someone else might say no, no, no, no, no. If you listen and it says disclosing his interest there in right, they might say, well no, that means you, you have, you have an interest. Now again, I don't know. I, I'm not a lawyer. It is an issue that could be absolutely challengeable before the courts, I believe, if, if somebody wanted to do so. The other thing is it says within, within 30 days, within one month before the day of election. So election is May 12th. Well, within means he has 30 days from May 12th. Okay, yes, 30 days from May 12th. That means the 30 day from eight, 30 days from May 12th started about April 12th. Right. And so to me, I could be wrong. To me he might be still good in the period. The question is the thing gazetted, the, the, the, this interest gazetted in time. It didn't, it didn't say to me he has to do so prior to one month. It says within one month. Or maybe it says maybe. If that is reading this way, it me it means, it means you can't do it in a shorter period than a month. If that's what that means, he can't do it no more. Okay, if it means, if one, if within one month means you have 30 days from election day, then he's okay if he can get it published in the Gazette. If it means no, you have, you have 30 days or more to do it, well then that's a different story. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. Some of the people with whom spoken legal people and others seem to think there is a violation. But again, I have come to learn in law what appears to be the case may not always be the case. And that's why even the best of lawyers go and tug it out before the courts over matters people thought were simple. I Don't know. And if this is true for it could well be true for some F and M candidate or candidates also. It could well be. And it may well be for others who may be seeking to do so. You know, so what's good for the goose gotta be good for the gander. And sometimes, as they say, when you dig one ditch, dig two. It would be immensely, as one friend told me, immensely embarrassing for Shabbat in this instance, that we can talk about. If he has invested so much in this process and in trying to be elected to have himself disqualified on these grounds, you know, ordinarily what happens is. And this is why, you know, well, life is really something when you are a newbie to politics, okay? As I was in 1997, a newbie, yes, Chicago. Lang may have been a smart kid, been educated and so forth, but what I didn't know, but politics like that, okay? I was inexperienced in politics. And so it don't make no difference how much I knew about economics or finance. I didn't know this business. What I came to learn from Hubert Alexander Ingram is I had to become a student of the laws, rules and procedures around the thing that I was involved with, which was politics. But one of the things that the parties made sure. But when you're young like I was, and I had no buggy load of money, I declared a net worth of $14,000. I was no big, big man. I couldn't be about the place like, I'm a big, big man. The party had to give me guidance, legal guidance on stuff. Help me understand. No, you have to do this, Chago. You have to do that. They ask me questions, is this the case? Is that the case? So I. They're trying to make sure that I was straight to be nominated. Didn't leave it to me as no big, big man. Didn't leave it to no one else as no big, big woman. This was a party function to make sure a qualified candidate to run in the election. And, you know, when I ran for the first time, Fred Mitchell and the PLP led a charge to contest my qualification as a candidate on the grounds that I had not ordinarily resided in the Bahamas one year or more before nomination day, they said he was living in Washington, D.C. which was true. And so how could he be ordinarily residing in the Bahamas? Which was their question. And, you know, just like I tell people, life, you know, is so simple. Yes, it's true. You have to be ordinarily residing in the Bahamas in order to be a nominee. I was not residing in the Bahamas in quote for a year. That's true. But you know what they didn't know because they were just trying to be smart. They're just trying to be disgusting and mischievous. But they didn't know was I was a full blown diplomat of the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. And if there's anyone who understands international law, they will understand it. Everywhere that a diplomat resides is the territory of their country. That is why my apartment, my car, the Embassy In Washington D.C. no U.S. government official could enter any of those without the permission of the Bahamas government, no matter what they wanted to do it for. Why? Because they would have been trespassing on the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. Because that was where I resided in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. Just like the US departure lounge is, when you go in there, you are in the US entering the US property. That is part of that diplomatic free. And that's why they control all things in there. So, so, so, so, but, but the party wasn't leaving me to go make that argument. The party gone ahead and get the diplomat. I remember Leonard Archer. His Excellency Leonard Archer had to come and make a full statement on the matter and so forth and so forth. That's because Chicago Lang was not a big, big man. I didn't have the wherewithal to go and do anything I wanted to do and blah, blah, blah and blah. I was a candidate for the party and I wasn't bigger than the party. And as a candidate for the party, the party had an interest, as it did in every other candidate, to make sure that we were duly qualified to run in the election. And guess what? We all were. We all did. Win, lose or draw. You're listening to Z Live. I'm Shavagolang, your host. We're gonna take a break. We'll be back after this break. [00:19:31] Speaker B: Five years of pop rule. Are you better off today while you work? They've spent millions on taxpayer funded trips, a government funded luxury car and handed out hundreds of millions in no bid contracts. But for the rest of us, gas and groceries through the roof, vat on bread basket, items broken, unaffordable and out of reach. And it's not just your wallet. For five years, illegal immigrants have flooded our communities, putting excessive pressure on our schools, our housing and our social services. As they flood in, Bahamian families fall behind under the F and M. 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Next, because from amongst those members of Parliament, so members of Parliament duly elected, we shall have a person who the Governor General believes commands the support of the majority of persons in the House of Assembly and will call on that person to become prime minister and to form a government. And so you get to shape influence the government of the Bahamas by your selection of the candidates. If you select the majority of candidates from a single party, then the leader of that party will become prime minister and will form the government. If you have a split number of votes, then something has to happen to give a majority so that some determination can be made as to the election. This the appointment of prime minister of the Bahamas. We've had scenarios where we've had landslides, we've had scenarios where we've had even splits. So that, as you know, Sarande fought [00:23:50] Speaker D: and [00:23:53] Speaker A: Brennan Lewis had to make some judgments and determinations to decide. PLP would ultimately prevail as a government of the Bahamas. Right. So we've had all the scenarios you can imagine. We don't know what's going to happen in this one. That's why we're going through the process. And as we go through this nomination day, we've had some interesting developments. Lincoln Bean and the COI have raised issues about the qualification of Sebast Bastian to contest in this election. Because according to them, looking at Article 48 of the Constitution, Clause 1, subsection J, that no one can be eligible or qualified to be elected to the House of Assembly who is interested in any government contract. And I can't see how, if you have a government contract, you ain't interested in the government contract. I can't see that. But, you know, like I said, I'm not a lawyer, but it says the wording, exact wording is it's interested in any government contract and has not disclosed the nature of such contract. So you have to say, what is the contract? I lease two, I rent two, I provide two. And not only the nature of the contract, but of your interest there and how you have an interest in that contract. Whether you want to apply for the contract, you have applied for the contract, you hold a contract, and you are a majority owner in a minority owner in X, Y and Z. You have to do that. But you can't just say it. You can't just come out, say it. You have to publish this by a notice in the Gazette. Now, that's a very formal process. That's a very formal process. Let me. Let me explain something to you all on an ordinary basis. Publishing in the Official Gazette could take time. And when you see these things being published in the Gazette, this is the government moving the thing. The government of the Bahamas moving the thing. Now, let me ask you a question. Who is it who has to publish this in the Gazette? Is this Abbas himself? Is it the Progressive Party? Is it the parliamentary commissioner's office? Or is it the government of the Bahamas? Which one of them is going to move the Official Gazette through the process? How that gonna work? Today is nomination day, though. Today is nomination day. So can you nominate having not fulfilled this requirement of election? That's the problem, Sebastian, today. How can you nominate to be elected when you can't qualify to be elected because you haven't met the requirements to be elected? That's the question is confronting him and anybody else who may be in such a situation. It's wiser politically because of you. I truly appreciate you for sharing your knowledge with us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Make the good Lord continue to bless you in every way. And I appreciate that. Thank you very much. I pray he blesses me, too. And I appreciate your praying that for me. Thank you. I appreciate it. This text says Zhivago. So what is now the recourse? Well, the recourse is if the parliamentary commissioner's office nominates him and they can go ahead and nominate him, he can go ahead and run in the election. And then after the election, the F and M, the plp, or whoever else could go and petition the courts to disqualify him on the grounds that he didn't qualify in the first instance. So that would be the recourse. But he could go ahead and do whatever. Whatever. Still, we have a call on the line. Go ahead, caller. We're listening to you. Pleasant. Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. I'm truly wishing you a wonderful day. Likewise. Thank you so much. Just have two quick points. I just wanted to let the Bahamas know in the general public that the COI is definitely ready to govern this country. We have. We follow the law and we are giving a very accurate expectation of what we can do according to the law to better this country. And it seems like the FNM and the PLC exposure season, God is exposing everything. The second point I wanted to make is that I encourage everybody in this process to govern themselves accordingly, especially as we go to the polls. Because regardless of who wins the election, you don't know who's going to be sitting next to you in church the next week. You know what I mean? So let's just be professional about it and be godly about it. That's all I wanted to say, sir. And you have a wonderful day. You, too, ma'. [00:29:31] Speaker C: Am. [00:29:31] Speaker A: Thank you for calling. Appreciate you. Thank you. Yes, ma'. Am. All right, we gotta take another break, pay our respects. Our marvelous sponsors, ladies and gentlemen, and when we come back, we will continue our conversation. We'll be back after this break. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid to take a stand. 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So glad that you could join us here today on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM on this beautiful Thursday afternoon nomination day in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas ready to go for to election on May 12. We are nominating. Most people should have been nominated by what at 12:01 o' clock? I think so most people should have nominated by now. Boy this can be a dynamic, dynamic day to see how this settles. I don't think any issue being raised is going to stop anybody from nominating. I think the boss can be right there nominating and then people could take up the issue after the fact figure out what happened. Now you know when it can be it might be interesting. So let's suppose the PLP wins the election maybe say by ac say by AC and the F M loses an election. There are some who claim that that Rick Fox could be caught in the same scenario as the bass for the F and M that Rick Fox has an interest in or we are told an interest in a housing project, he has an MOU or something to that effect. And so they the question is whether he fits in that same category. So let's suppose about the PLP win and Sebastian but by one seat and Rick Fox loses then the F M might have be motivated to go and contest Sebastian election on the grounds that he didn't qualify because then if he gets disqualified then it'll be a tie. Now things get really interesting right? Might be A tie. And. And then you gotta hope that's. He gotta be contested or you all kind of. It's all kind of drama around that. So. So, so that. But what if the F M wins and Sebastian loses and Rick Fox wins? Well, maybe the PLB goes and contests that. You see how that works? And so, you know, it's. It's. It makes for. It makes for dynamism, that's for sure. We have some more text here. Let me read for you. This text says they need to make you a kc. No, man. No, don't make. For God's sake, don't make me. No, Casey, I ain't no lawyer. I am. I'm just talking, just sharing my opinions, my views, my. My understanding, however flawed it might be. It says, good day, Mr. Lang. It sounds to me like Sebast is in a hot seat. He is in a hot seat, there's no question about that. But I don't think that. I don't think that that will. I don't think that that will rattle him. I don't think so at all. I think that he will nominate and move on. We have a caller on the line. Go ahead, caller, we're listening to you. [00:34:46] Speaker D: Mr. Lang, I wanted to weigh in on the situation with Sebas, the alleged. I mean, it's only right now, like you said, we don't know the facts, but looking at it, from the way you see it and the way you said you spoke to some persons of legal minds, it's a possibility that this may. Right. And if it is, what does that tell you about the PLP and its organization? Does it say that they're starting off with something that the Bahamian people should really take notice of? Because I am saying that if this wasn't pointed out, and I'm not saying that right now it's alleged, but if it wasn't pointed out to the Bahamian people, this government have intention of doing to the Bahamian people from day one. That's something to be concerned about. That concerns me because had not the COI representative pointed that out, then where would we be with this? And I also wanted to know how come the FNM did not brought this to. To the attention, also to the. To the public's attention? [00:36:06] Speaker A: I think both of your questions are valid questions. Both. Both are valid. I don't. And I don't have answers for them. But, you know, sometimes you miss things. Sometimes in the heat of just trying to pay attention to many things, you miss some things. Right. This is. And I would argue is an important thing to have paid attention to but sometimes you miss things so. But I can't answer for either PLP or the FNM or the government. [00:36:31] Speaker D: But this is the last thing I want to say that tells you that the COI is on top of new organization a third party and could point this out based on the constitution. It is being said that maybe a lot of those candidates don't really know the constitution. Thank God the COI has the knowledge and is using that knowledge to their advantage. So let's see how it turns out. [00:36:57] Speaker A: Yeah, that's an argument to be made. You can make that argument for sure. Thanks a lot. Appreciate you calling. All right. This text says thank you sir for educating us on policy and procedures as it relates to qualifications required to vote and what is written in the constitution. We the Bahamian people are watching and will not allow any government to circumvent what is required by our constitution says that texter. We have another call on the line. Go ahead caller, we're listening to you. [00:37:25] Speaker D: Hey good afternoon Mr. Link. How you doing today? [00:37:28] Speaker A: Right here man. [00:37:28] Speaker D: How you Everything good I the general election coming up soon. I want the woolen public to pay attention to what these candidates say listen to exactly what coming out of their mouths and with the same color who just called and say the COI on proper danks. There was interview in Lincoln being this morning right about the same situation Mr. Boss and I spoke you could y' all could go back and listen you make a find yet Lincoln being said he cannot wait to get inside the household assembly to keep these fellas in check with that statement. That means you don't have no confidence in the rest of your team because you only looking for you won't be the prime minister get inside the house just to hold people's feet to the fire. I thought you wouldn't run the country but that's true. [00:38:20] Speaker A: That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. [00:38:22] Speaker D: What does say about what you thinking about your team? You don't think the rest of them inside the house of the feet to [00:38:31] Speaker A: the fire but they're being realistic about what they can do. You remember she said that so maybe he's he's realistic knowledge and he ain't gonna be the government of the Bahamas. [00:38:42] Speaker D: That's how you speak all of that? [00:38:44] Speaker A: Well no but I'm just saying that's how he talk but you make a good point. Thanks a lot. We appreciate it. Do we have another call on the line? No, this Text says good day line why you ran in Nassau in the election some years ago the first time Iran in 1997. I was 29 years old. I ran in Nassau because Hubert Ingraham asked me to run in that upcoming election period. His idea was that I should run in Grand Bahama where I grew up. His aim was to have me run in east Grand Bahama where first born as we like to call him, Maurice Moore would have been retiring from politics. He sought to encourage that. But the east Grand Bahama folk had other ideas about who they wanted to run in that seat. And so warning me in the House of Assembly and on his team, he then searched for an alternative. And that alternative was Fort Charlotte in Nassau because Chuck Virgil had been in discussions and they decided he would retire from politics. And that seat was a seat that I could run in. And that's why I ran in for Charlotte and won that seat at 29 years old. That's why that happened. This text says Lang. This came up about two or three weeks ago on your show. Oh really? I don't recall that but okay. This says good day Zhi. Can you relate this to the issue that was raised years ago with Dr. Hubert Minnis and the use of his medical facility? I think the business was stacked care. That is another. That is another issue. Instance in which this matter could have been raised. That is true. Another instance in which that could have been raised. This text is sorry I told you that affects Abbas and Rickman and [00:40:54] Speaker D: that [00:40:54] Speaker A: they might have an interest in the in a government contract that they ought to have disclosed prior to today. Let's put it like that. This text says Mr. Lang this season usually brings me much anxiety, polarization, the mean and disgusting things said about each other seemingly with impunity. It is very disturbing. I'm looking forward to the day when we can people each other's views. I don't believe that any one of us loves this country more than the other. Even though there are some of us who benefit more from the government than others. Well said. Well said. Hope springs eternal. Stay hopeful. I listened to the song PLP put on these stations about Michael Pintard. I was really, I was, you know, you know, you know and you all get mad with me if you want. Prime Minister Davis said they already saying mean and nasty things about me now. I mean I'm speaking for Shabbat online. I had not up to that point heard any mean or nasty things said about Prime Minister Davis. Not mean nasty things. I've heard people comment on his leadership on his capacity and all that kind of stuff but nothing nasty. So I was really like wow, okay, wonder what. And one of them that I missed, right? You know, in the whisperings of politics you can hear all kind of nonsense and Prime Minister Davis has to acknowledge too in his camp all kind of whisperings go on. You can see them on Facebook. You can see some of the whisperings on Facebook. Stuff about Michael Pintard and the murder for hire, this and that and ah, come on, let's be real. But I had not seen any party go out there and start attacking people in their ads like that. Not, not in terms of that. You had a song, I'm sure you heard the song. You listen to Guardian Radio. Yeah, the song. So, so, so I. To my mind, I think to myself man, you. How do you take one stance on a matter and then allow your organization to actually participate in the matter on which you take a stand against. That, that, that, that, that, that baffles me, baffles me and expect that the f M might come and do the same thing. Because I don't think you should be in this business of talking stupidness about people in any personal capacity and all that kind of stuff. I think that's immature, nasty, corrupt nonsense. I don't think anybody should do that. But yeah, maybe, maybe the f coming up to the song and speak their particular posture position on the mat and see why I made you listen to me. If, if you were given awards for songs, campaign songs, Dr. MacGyver would handstand me win the competition hands down. Sometimes in the middle of the night I hear that song. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to Z Live. I'm survival, I'm your host. We're going to take a break for news. When we come back we continue our discussion. We'll be back after music. This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. 96.9 FM. I'm not afraid I'm not afraid to take a stand Take a stand Everybody, everybody come take my my come take my Walk this road together through the storm whatever weather cover the war. Welcome, welcome ladies and gentlemen to Z Live. I'm Shago Lang, your host. So glad that you could join us here today on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM on this beautiful Thursday afternoon. Non candidates and parties should be and have been nominated as you heard recently on the news break. Prime Minister say Manny, I have no concerns about the boss. He expects him to be nominated and blah blah blah blah. So there you go if you want to give us a call, feel free to do so. We have a couple of callers on the line right now. Go ahead caller. We're listening to you. [00:45:39] Speaker D: Good afternoon. [00:45:41] Speaker A: Good afternoon, sir. How you doing? [00:45:42] Speaker D: All is well. This thing with that government contracts first you also have to go to the interpretation clause of the Constitution that defines what it means to be page 83 of the Constitution. And then this, this something came to light more publicly joined Dr. Minnesota's tenure. And then during the last election 2021 a number of candidates made declarations of their interest in government contracts. I don't know which newspaper was the Official Gazette last last year for the last election outside of what government publications [00:46:23] Speaker A: does that would have had to been tripped The Tribune. The Tribune because I think, I mean I don't know necessarily change it because the Guardian was denied quite a bit of. [00:46:31] Speaker D: Okay, yeah. So. So a number of candidates last election posted cut down and just declared in the newspaper. I I can't remember which which newspaper it was. [00:46:43] Speaker E: So you. [00:46:44] Speaker D: They could probably check the archives and see do it which time frame that was. If it was within, you know within. Because if I said I got to do something within this day that could mean those 24 hours, right? [00:46:56] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. That's why I said within the time [00:47:01] Speaker D: play on words and you know lawyers play on words and that's how you go to court of the court determine what court say it's a final saying then you get another court you could go to tell you reach telecontency plays out. But yeah, I love the COI Lincoln Bain because he always get in attention. You know he is make sure he get his name on the headline and his thoughts out in the headlines on a daily basis. But this issue is one of them so knowing. [00:47:32] Speaker A: Thank you, man. Sorry. [00:47:36] Speaker D: I think like you said when you was running the first time, the lawyers and all the party lawyers made sure that everything was straight on your side. I think both political parties who've been running the country for years have been doing that for all their candidates. [00:47:52] Speaker A: Yeah, for the most part that's been the case. Yeah. All right. Thanks a lot for calling. We appreciate it. We have another call on the line. Go ahead caller. We're listening to you. Go ahead, caller. We're listening to you. [00:48:08] Speaker D: All right. [00:48:09] Speaker A: We don't, we don't have another call. Okay. This text says Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. I don't think but I can can't speak to Mr. Sebastian situation but him being an astute businessman with a team of lawyers and PLP legal team stated that he is in the clear. I have no doubt companies or a company that he is partnered with may have engaged with government contracts but I am sure other others also. Are they sure they the candidates want to open this ambassador for the Bahamas? I think they would have cleaned up all irregularities. Why? Why? Why? Why? For being an ambassador. Ambassador is appointed by by the prime minister and as long as the country accepts you then you got to clean up what you clean up his Texas. Mr. Lang, if the wording vested interest in government contracts or agreements may disqualify several candidates because a lot of them have considerable interest and or self interest. How you know that? How you know that? Tell me how you know that. Where you how you know these people business like that when you use investigate, [00:49:22] Speaker D: huh? [00:49:22] Speaker A: Yeah. You know that this text says. It says Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. All I can say is when Christ is in the vessel he smiles at the storm. I am glad Travis said nothing because the attack would be. He was desperate. Look at God. Mr. Lang, when Rick Fox wrote an entire article about his housing idea and how the government did not fulfill the part of the deal causing it not to go forward, is that not a declaration? No, it's not a declaration in the way the Constitution requires it for government contracts. Though it says published in the Gazette. So it's not a declaration. This Texas just spoke Oh, I don't know you this you can't. You only send people this text says good day Mr. Pentard is different. This is the new F M. Okay, this text says that the F M right to go to performer had a hilarious song about PM okay this that season this Texas. Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. I thought only me one love Dr. MacGyver shingle, whoever that is a bomb. Yeah, ain't no question about that. She got it. She has a. In fact, I'll be honest with you. Other than Ifatania y' all remember that I fatan Yeah, I. I don't think that I have heard a better jingle than that one Evan in politics. I. I don't think so. That's well put together. This text as Mr. Langall that spoke about keeping feet to the fire on Lincoln Bain wanting to run the country. This is such a spin. It's like you could interpret anything anybody says to misappropriate misdirect what they intended to do. I simply understood them to say he will do what is right and have to stop the corruption and get the country doing what it should be doing for the people. This is coming from somebody who voted in 92 to change the election. That's my first time. Also from somebody who voted. F M, DNA, DNA, PLP voted. I voted for everybody, with the exception of the coalition. Let's just be straight up, if that's even possible, except where someone says, you don't have to vote for him if you don't have to always make a spin. You don't have to vote for him, but you don't have to always make a spin. Okay, I got you. This. Says. This text says, good afternoon. Z. Can you tell me what makes Mr. Bastian unqualified to nominate? There's not. There's nothing that makes him. There is a suggestion that he hasn't qualified because he hasn't According to Article 48, Subclass 1, Subsection J, as in done the necessary disclosure in the Official Gazette about his interest in government contracts. That's what it is. This text says, what is the consequences for the officials who allow someone to nominate who does not qualify to nominate? Is there any consequences? They just continue to do, I guess, a good job here. They don't. There's no consequences. Some you can make mistakes, right? You can make mistakes. That's why you have in your system. That's why you have an adversarial system where because you and I are contesting against each other, because we're contesting, we then look out for things that you may be doing that is contrary. And I pointed out you. Because you don't. You want all kinds of avenues for picking up irregularities, not just even the officials. Officials can make mistake. You can take an official to court. All that means is they made a mistake if they didn't knowingly do anything wrong. So there's no consequences. Right? And there ought not to be if you. If you don't. Because sometimes you don't know or you didn't pick it up or you didn't. You know, there's no no. But they got everybody else right and this one wrong. Come on. This says good afternoon for a Charlotte situation. It's interesting. Which company is building the ub doms? I don't know. This text says the PLP has no integrity. Says that text. This text says, I wish someone who's working in the F M campaign and communication could reach out to the Guardian radio station on all other stations and pay for the song Dangerous from Clement Shea on behalf of the F M. Dangerous to PLP is dangerous. That's the name of the song. Okay, we have a call on the line. Go ahead, caller. We're listening to you. [00:54:13] Speaker D: Thank you. Thanks, Shivago. So in the case of the boss, my question, I think he said that he doesn't own anything. I think on one of the shows, which is indicating that he probably have some kind of trust set up. So my question then would be to I guess whoever's out and listening lawyers would not he then wouldn't he control. You know, they say in trust you could control everything but want nothing. So I guess in a sense he could probably get by like that where he doesn't actually own it, but it's actually on the trust and if the law allows him, then it will qualify. Not that I'm agreeing with him against gambling. [00:54:48] Speaker A: Yeah, the only, the only, no, the only difference is the word interest here. Okay. Interest could mean legal ownership, beneficial ownership, benefiting from. [00:55:02] Speaker D: Right. And so that'll. And I guess that's where it's going to come down because, you know, how do we interpret trust in the Bahamas? You know, does it qualify as beneficial? And then someone as a man on the ground, I'd say yes. You know, but thanks for. Thanks for that and thanks for. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. I appreciate, I appreciate you calling this text. Has OBI had an awesome jingle too? Who is the man? Obi? Okay, I don't remember that one. Do we have another call on the line? Go ahead, call it. We're listening to you. [00:55:33] Speaker D: No. [00:55:33] Speaker A: Okay, so the person who called in earlier said we have to look at what the word government. The constitution says in Article 137. In Article 137. Hold on, let me find it for you. In Article 137, Clause 3 says for, for the purposes of Article 42, 43, 48 and 49. And of course 48 and 49 are the relevant articles. Says government contract means subject to such exceptions as Parliament may prescribe. So if Parliament pass a law that makes an exception to this definition says government contract means any contract made with the government of the Bahamas or with a department of the government of the Bahamas or with an officer of that government contracting as such. So which means, which means it's in. When it says hasn't it's interest, it means a government contract. It means has a contract with. That's what it says. Means any contract made with the government of the Bahamas or with a department of the government of the Bahamas or with an officer of the government of the Bahamas. So this isn't thinking it. So apparently article 48 isn't prospective. It is respective what you have. Okay, that's interesting. And then it says a person shall be deemed to be interested in a government contract. Listen to it. Listen to it. What does it mean to be deemed to be interested in a government contract? Says you are deemed to be interested in a government contract if one subject to such exceptions as Parliament may prescribe he is a party to such a contract, or a partner in a firm or a director or manager of a company which is a party to such a contract. That's interesting. Or he listen, is otherwise interested in such a contract in such manner as Parliament may prescribe. So lots there for the lawyers and other people to go and and dig their teeth, sink their teeth into. Ah boy, interesting times indeed. This text says Lang could Lincoln Bain fight that case with Bastion before the election? No, I mean he could, he could go and try and get an injunction, I imagine his text says, I like Mr. Pintad. Cool walk and the intellectual way he speaks. He never casts assaults and even though he is constantly attacked by so many, so many males, this is so sad to see. To me it's jealousy and envy. Continue to stay focused above board. King Sabas is just too arrogant. Says that next. We have another caller on the line. [00:59:06] Speaker D: Hey brother Zhirago, Good afternoon. [00:59:08] Speaker A: Hey, what's going on man? [00:59:09] Speaker D: My brother, let me just say thank you. Thank you. Because the mantle you have picked up in terms of helping we the Bahamian people over the airwaves to really have a deeper appreciation for our Constitution, especially during this time in our election, I can surely say without any shadow of a doubt that you are actually helping us out here to learn more about the intricacies of what is being said in the Constitution, especially as it pertains to this particular time in our electoral season. My desire is, I really wish that there were others similar who would pick up that mantle. And as we go through all of these issues, as it pertains to what we go through, going through in this country, would apply the Constitution and give us some some other aspects that are known and unknown so we can appreciate what our Constitution really states saying that it is not really taught from the primary school or the junior high school or the senior high school for that matter until you get UB level. So I, I appreciate and I will continue to listen because I'm surely learning a lot from you today. Thank you for taking my call. [01:00:29] Speaker A: Thanks for calling. Thank you. I appreciate it. Do my best, do what I can. This text says do we have another call on the line producer just before I go to the text? No. All right. This text says could it be the non disclosure was intentional? So as not to alarm the citizens of the Bahamas of the value of said contracts. The legal advisors to the PLP is known for his past attempts to skirt around the election. Oh, man. This Texas line is the OB Wil building. Part owner with sabas. I do not know. I don't know. Who owns that. I don't know. What? Well, the government owns it. The government owns it, so. But you mean the private partner part of it. I don't know. This text is. Good afternoon. Can a candidate be replaced at this point in the electoral process? And if so, what are the different circumstances? You could replace the candidate if you could have replaced the candidate before nomination. Yeah, you could. As long as they could get enough signatories on the prescribed forms and do all the other things, the lineup, to do that. Yes, you could replace a candidate, but you can't do it. And I suspect, I believe nomination, if I'm not mistaken, nomination. Maybe it closes a. I don't know. I honestly, I don't. [01:01:50] Speaker D: I don't remember. [01:01:52] Speaker A: I don't remember. This says. Look, call Dr. Minnes. He can tell us what Sebastian is facing now or similar call minutes. Why? Why? Why? Oh, you mean because. Because. Okay. Oh, I understand Dr. Minnis is busy nominating Dr. Minnis, the former leader of the Free National Movement, former Prime minister of the Bahamas as a leader of the Free National Movement is now a nominated independent candidate running against party that gave him leadership to become prime minister. You don't have no time to be taking no calls from you trying to win this deck says your definition of government contract on interest with disqualified number of candidates. How you know I keep up? You keep saying that. How do you know? How? How? Like how do you know these people? Business like that. I don't understand that. How do you know that? See, behemoth. You can't just run around assuming stuff about people's life just because you. You think that's not right. How you know. And if you know somebody there something I hope you will be doing somebody. Because you can't be sitting down there watching wrong happen unless you sit down there and close your eye and go, oh, yeah, that's what they're doing. Oh, man, stop. I just have people walk around thinking, oh, yeah, he got all the government money for many. Come on, man. It's sickening. Don't do it. Is it? Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. That Dr. MacGyver song grabbed me from the first time it aired. Said as for the PLP ad, it's very distasteful. An artist don't even sound Baming or is doctor Baby Artists can't make the Money? I don't know. I don't know. It's not a catchy song. It's not a, it's not a song that will naturally cause people to be ringing nothing. So as I, you know, but, you know, but it's out there. Yeah. Nomination clause at 12 today. That's what I thought. Ain't no replacing nobody no more. Nomination is from 9:00 o' clock to 12:00 clock or 12:30 or something like that. That's what I always remembered. I remember them telling us she had to get up early. Well, let me tell you something. I was 29 years old when I, when I ran for the first time, and, boy, listen to me, dumb people wasn't joking with us. They, they, they line you up with your lawyers, check your papers, check your desk, look at that, so forth and so forth. They tell you, listen, you can't lose an election on nomination day, right? You don't action on nomination day, lose it on election day, but don't lose it on nomination day. Check them names. Make sure them names on the register. Make sure them names on the register for that constituency which you supposed to be running. Venue nomination is between 9 o' clock and 11 o'. Clock. You make sure you line up and ready to go in time to be nominated. Don't be trying to press there. The other man got all his people blocking up the road. You can't even get to the nomination station. No, sorry, Bob. He was a young candidate. You're not a big, big man. We want to make sure you know what you're doing. And, yeah, he was a bright man. You worked in the Prime Minister's office. You, you got your bachelor's in economics and, and everybody say he's a smart boy, but we ain't even. We are not even our nomination to you, even you ain't got no money. But if you, if you had all the money in the wood, man, leaving it to you. We got a call on the line. Go ahead, caller, we're listening to you. [01:06:08] Speaker D: Hey, yeah, good afternoon, Mr. Lang. How you doing? [01:06:10] Speaker A: Good, man, good. What's up? [01:06:12] Speaker D: Good. Right here, Mr. Like, do you know the details surrounding the lawsuit with the company or the partner or whatever the arrangement is with the. [01:06:32] Speaker A: Not details, but I know the essence of it. The essence of it is that the man, the private partner in that private public partnership has defaulted on his or their loan, and a basis for the default was the delay in receiving payments from the government of the Bahamas related to the construction of that building. [01:06:59] Speaker E: I see. [01:06:59] Speaker D: So now the. So the government owns that building wholly, [01:07:05] Speaker A: man, before you even get there. Before you even get there, understand that that scenario is telling you everything. A public private partner goes out there and borrows money to build a government building. Who? Who? The building. The government building for the. The people. The private partner goes and get that, gets that money. Now why the government enter into the private public partnership? Why? Why the government did it? Because why the government didn't borrow that money to go build that building itself because the government didn't want that loan on its books. But the government was on the hook for the payment, [01:07:48] Speaker D: right? [01:07:48] Speaker A: This mom is relying on servicing that loan through the payments from the government, which means, in essence, whether you like it or not, bro, you borrowed money and you would do. You had to pay the private partner both the principal amount and the interest amount and the profit amount in order to make that profitable for the private part. See, because the private partner. What are you. What. What is he gonna do with a government building if. Even if. Even if he own it? What. What's he gonna do with the government building? Who. Who he can rent a government building to in eight Mile Rock? [01:08:30] Speaker D: So he now will have to sue the government. He. This party will now in turn will be asking the government to vacate the building. Or. I mean, I mean, [01:08:45] Speaker A: first of all, you don't know what's going to happen because you and I don't know the terms of his loan to the financial people who gave him the money. We don't know that. We don't know the terms of the arrangement between him as a private partner and the government. So we don't know anything. And we need not guess at it. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know anything. [01:09:07] Speaker D: No. Should, should, should, should, should, should. Even though it's not public money that is being put up out front, but at the end of the day, we, the public, the government, who is essentially the public, is guaranteeing these funds in essence. So shouldn't. [01:09:31] Speaker A: Let me ask you a question. If you are. If you have a lawyer and your lawyer go and set up a contract on your behalf, should you know the terms of it? [01:09:42] Speaker D: On my behalf? Yeah, I should. [01:09:46] Speaker A: Okay, well, the government only operates on your behalf. The government does nothing on its own behalf. Nothing. The government is a trustee. [01:09:57] Speaker D: I know that we say that we give. We give the government proxy to. [01:10:02] Speaker A: No bro. No bro. No bro. No. But the government. The government is your agent. Proxy don't have nothing to do with it. The government is your agent. [01:10:14] Speaker D: I mean when I say the proct, I mean that we can be, all of us can't be physically present. [01:10:19] Speaker A: No. Yeah. No, the government, the government is your agent. [01:10:24] Speaker D: Right. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Because. Because you cannot, because you cannot govern in mass. Right. You, you pull out your population. You pull out of your population a group of people you ask to go and act on your behalf. [01:10:37] Speaker D: So as my agent, as my insurance agent, should you explain to me or I should read the fine prints and read. Shouldn't I have access to the details, to the fine. [01:10:49] Speaker A: Everything [01:10:52] Speaker D: I am getting into every single, [01:10:55] Speaker A: every single, every single lick of it. Except something that might be injurious to you. [01:11:04] Speaker D: Wow. Because you know, you know we have 400, almost half a billion dollars in PPPs that is being signed that you know it's going to come to bite us because we don't know the details of all of these arrangements and the government has to find money to pay these individuals and, and do all of these other things. [01:11:26] Speaker A: And you know the, the details ain't to come to bite you. Not the details. What's going to come to bite you is the financial obligation. [01:11:37] Speaker D: Right, Right. But I'm saying you're right. I mean, I mean that is going to come one way or the other. I mean that ain't going away if you, you know, I don't really understand these until I come right now. All of these so called, all of these community centers and whatnot. These multimillion dollar buildings that are going up. I think Freeman and Porters signed a PPP to do one. I mean how does that, how does that really, you know, how, how do we know the details and what do we, we own the building or we are partners of it? You know I have all of these questions like I asked certain government officials and like mom's the word. You know like we, like we going on, you know, just leave it to us. Don't worry about nothing. We got this. Once you see it go hurt. But don't worry about the details. Mine, you know, any other thing. I gotta go. Have a good one. [01:12:40] Speaker A: Take care my friend. Ladies and gentlemen, we can take a break. You're listening to Z Live. I'm Chaga Lang, your host. We'll be back after this break. You try to rest rope with the best for all your printing these There ain't no one better no. 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Someone has asked me, Mr. Lang, what percentage does a candidate have to get to get their deposit back? Okay. According to. According to Article 37 of the Parliamentary Elections act, you have to deposit $400 in cash. They ain't taking no check from you. Ain't bringing no check to the door. You carry up $400. The government say. Ain't trusting you. Because after election that check my bounce. So the government say you have to bring in $400 in cash. In order for you to get that cash, you have to be alive on election day. And you have to have received. You have to have not withdrawn and you have to. You have to have received 1/6 of all the votes cast. 1/6 of all the votes cast. So if there were, if there were, let's say, if there were a thousand, five thousand votes cast on that day, not vote cast for you, votes cast period. Right. You have to. You. If you. If they cast 5,000 votes, you have to get 833 of those votes, otherwise you don't get your deposit back. Okay, If a thousand votes were cast, you got to get 167 of them votes from stuff like that. That's how it goes. So you have to get one sixth of all the votes cast, not one sixth of your votes, 1/6 of all the votes cast on election day in order to get your deposit back. I wonder if I get my 400 back. I did. Not that I made the numbers, but I was just thinking, yeah, I get that, Chris. 400. All right, now let me mention something else that I found intriguing. Now we're going to talk about these a bit more. Last week someone called me and asked me, Chicago, what would be a reasonable amount of money for the government of the Bahamas to spend on travel over the course of five years? What would be a reasonable amount? And I indicated to them, I said I couldn't see more than five, $10 million. I could even. I'll even stretch it to $15 million. I couldn't see more than that. I called others and I asked the same thing, and they were in line and with me on that. You know, you make some allowance for inflation over time. But. But I would say, like, if you spend in $20 million in five years on travel, you spend in a lot of people's money. A lot of people's money. And so when they said to me that the government spent $74 million over the last five years, I was like, wow, that is a huge amount. Amount of money for travel. $74 million. To put that in some context, you could travel to China by, by economy. 28, 000 times before a million dollars. 28, 000 times round trip. You could travel to China, economy class for $74 million. 28,000. 28,000. Y' all remember Sebastian. Now, you could do these things. 28, 000 would mean, in five years, would mean 5,600 trips to China every year. And that would mean by the day, by the day. That would be like, you take 50 trips a day to China for five years, round trip a day. You know how long it takes to get to China? It takes 15, 16 hours to get to Hong Kong from Toronto. 14. 15 hours, 15 trips a day. That's what that meant. So I thought it. 74 million. That's a lot of. It's a lot of. It's a lot of. A lot of expenditure for travel. Not a lot, a lot. I would say about three times more than would be redeemed normal travel allowance. And that's that dog that's at the liberal end of things, right? And then somebody asked for roads and parks, and I was like, listen to me. So Rosam. So that would be like if, if they spent 170something million dollars, whatever the month was. That's over five years, right? That's over five years. So that's a bit about $3.7 million a year in over five years. Yeah. Sorry. No, no, no, no, no. That's. But $36 million a year over five years, right now for that amount of money. $36 million a year over five Years. For that amount of money, one ought to be able to visibly see the results of that. Okay, I mean, let's be clear. And so when, when members of the public are saying, well, you know, show me that. Where is that? That's a reasonable question. Now, mind you, the people who are at the, at the, the beach and parks might be able to show you it, but they need to show you it. So maybe this is a good time. You know, what is ought to be is around election time. You're trying to show off your work, right? That's what you should do. You should show off your work. So, and this is the, this is a, this is the age of Internet. This is the age of, you know, social media, man. This is the age of AI. You know how many pretty videos and photos of parks and beaches in the world. If you're in the government of the Bahamas, you shouldn't even be, you shouldn't even be doing any work before. You have before pictures. So you go, you look at a beach, A beach is nasty, unkempt. And you, and you go take a, you go take pictures and you document you dated. You say, this is what it was like on, on September 20, on September 16, 19. I mean, 2021. And then you say on, on April 16, 2026. Look at the difference. People could argue with that. You can't argue with the difference. You go on a path, the date, September 2016, 2021, and you take a bit, pick a picture, you snap it. Snap, shoot, shoot it out to people. Look at this park. Look at this terrible situation. And then on April 16, 2026, you take more pictures and videos and you're gonna see the difference. How you could argue with that? How you gonna argue with the children on the park playing on this beautiful spanking park? For $36 million a year, you shouldn't have to hire people asking you where the money is. You should just tell Them. See, look. Go see. Go look. I'm gonna paint a picture for you under government of the Bahamas. In this day and age, every time you do a project, put a sign up project done by the government of Bahamas, boom. Then everybody could see. Because sometimes you don't live in the area, you're just passing through. But you could tell people. All right, we're gonna take our final break, ladies and gentlemen. You're listening to Z Live. 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[01:28:16] Speaker A: National news is Guardian Radio National 96.9 FM. Fresh news. Smart talk all day. Hey, welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to Z Live. I'm Chevalgo Lang, your host. So glad you could join us for these remaining moments of the show. I'm going to read all these texts of yours because there are lots of them. This text says Mr. Valentine Grimes. Them is too old for this. They should be ashamed of them. What is he at, Mr. Grimes? A political general. Done doing his job, doing the work that he does. I'm not getting caught up in that. His text says, what does this mean for Dr. Minnis? Is he a part of the F M? Absolutely not. You run against the FM party, you are. You are out. You are not about the F and M. How you could be with me and run against me. This says, good afternoon. Last election, Dwayne Sands had a nice song. Lundy had a catchy one, too. Something about Andrus progressing. Okay, this Texas brother Lang, today is. You administer. Have time to call in Mr. Lang? I was busy working. What happened to Sebastian? Oh, and Darren Enfield by day soon too. BMP. Okay. Oh, happy birthday to Dr. Minnes and happy birthday to Mr. Henfield. Okay, the sex says Mr. Lang. How soon after the election are the constituencies legally audited? Constituencies say. And do you think if the constituency allowance should be used to purchase vehicles or billboards? Because if the MP loses, that vehicle remains with the constituency. Wow. There's no auditing of. You mean the constituency allowance account? Well, I. I mean, I. Yeah, there's. Well, I don't know. I mean, honestly, I don't know how that works. I don't know how that works. I don't. Sorry. They said, Good day, Mr. Lang. What percentage does a candidate. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. That already say, hi, Lang. Another talk show host on another station was trying to spin Sabas's interview, claiming Sabas didn't he Supports the national lottery and got upset when I tried to say brave. Davis said one thing about the lottery and Sabah said something completely. Then tried to make what Michael Pintad said this morning when a reporter asked Pintad about Sabah's comments. Okay, I'm not. I'm not familiar with that. This says election jingles. I liked Vote Desmond Banister jingle. Ifatanya better now, better to come. Okay. This election is so different. We are losing the bam in political excitement. I think voter turnout will be significantly less. Wow. Is Texas vying the travel includes everything, right? Food, airfare, transportation, etc. Yes, I think this Texas, if this is the case, it will be interesting to see where the bulk of the funds are being spent. I think entertainment, hotel and living it up is driving up the cost. I don't think so. I think it's. It's the airfare is always the most expensive on the hotel. The next expensive. I would be surprised if any departures from that. This text says you and I can go to Florida relatively cheaply, but we can blow our pockets based on how we treat ourselves. That's true. That's true. Do we have another call on the line? Oh, okay. This text says, can you remember how you Was reimbursed for $100 cash? Buying, transfer or check? I think cash. I got that in cash. Cash, just how I gave it. This was put to the Minister of Beaches and Parks. His reply was it was a matter of semantics. What exactly does that mean, semantics? What was the question put to him? I don't know. Okay, we have a call on the line. Go to call. Go ahead, call. We're listening to you. [01:32:14] Speaker E: Yes, sir. Good day to you all. [01:32:16] Speaker A: Yep. Yes, Yes. [01:32:19] Speaker E: I like to address the. The what's in the media about Shabazz and his. His views on the lottery. But my question to the behemoth is that whether or not they check AI on whether lotteries, private lotteries, are legal in the United States, you know what I got from AI is that it's not, you know what I'm saying? Only lotteries that are legal are state lotteries. So this issue about the Bahamas have eight lotteries or eight webshots, you know, which I see is different from a lottery. The web shots, you understand? I'm saying that Obama's government should have no competition. There should be no other numbers operation but the government. You know what I'm saying? That's best practices. You understand me? So that, that's. I guess that was a conflict that Christie got into when he talked about whatever the referendum was about doing Mr. Rev shop it was was conflict with the. The national lottery. I guess that's. I'm assuming that that's why he choose to to do one and not the other. Yeah. Hello. [01:33:34] Speaker A: All right. Yeah yeah. [01:33:35] Speaker E: What I what I see right is that and then Sabah talk about the taxation raising. He didn't say what the talk not you know more that taxation weighing on a particular percent but he didn't say what the percentage was let us on then reduce on grace or net. Gross or net. You see what I'm saying? So so my. My view is that Sebastian makes you know and then that they can. They can advance, they. They can grow. They can do more than they're doing as well. I don't see no reason for them not to have a. A live casino rather than the what you call it electronic one. You see what I'm saying? The government should still be taxing them too in the gaming. I love what he said about the proceeds of the tacos not going in and should be going into education and the like. You see what I'm saying? I feel that all gambling should be going that is a lot of all casinos see to buy some casinos for me you know it's how to get away from being casinos is calling by calling it a web shop. A web shop at the day at the time where you could go in and do anything. You go in and just study, just use a computer, pay to use a computer. You know what I'm saying? But anyway thank you much sir. [01:34:56] Speaker A: All right. Take care man. This Texas at the F M's rally few night oh it says the Energizer Bunny said she oh I'm still for Tanya. Where did the money go? The Energizer Bunny said she did much. She didn't reach my wall. Destroyed my wall by her fixing the road. Still waiting. I fixed and painted my wall saying the F M never came by evident. You need to go get get around to some of these places where people say you only get around to this text says good day. Okay. Yeah. Oh okay. Okay. This says good day. Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. The information that you are educating us with if only they can take that information in the government will help. It will help our country to get much more much better off in the future. Such as the technology we have today. Thank you. You're welcome. Oh man, I have a headache today. I don't know what's going on. I got a headache. Maybe just my eyes Say was it semantics or Samantha concerning beaches and. All right, ladies and gentlemen, listen. Thank you for joining us today. You've been listening to Z Live. I'm Shavar Relying, your host. So glad that you could join us. God spare you. Again tomorrow. You all have a fantastic afternoon. [01:36:33] Speaker D: Thank you.