Z Live: Off The Record W/ Zhivargo Laing - October 7 2025

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Not bad, not bad. So glad you could join us. If you want to give us a call today on the show, the numbers to do so are 323-6232. That's 323-6232. Or 325-431-632543 16. You can call us from Family Islands on 2423-00-5720. You can text us on 422-4796. That's 422-2796. Or you can WhatsApp me on 439-3043. That's 439-3043. We are live on Cable Bahamas Channel 9. Or you can catch us on ETC float channel 612 as PTC flow channel 61 2. Today's show is sponsored by our special sponsors RF Bahamas First City of Hope, formerly Cancer Treatment Centers of America, Bahama Culinary Festival featuring Lenny Kravitz, Atlantic General Insurance, Southwest Plaza, Star General Insurance and Fidelity bank and Trust. Somebody is texting me, asking me if it's snowing. Not even close. No, no snow at all. Thank God, actually, because I'm attending a conference here. Normally when I attend this conference where, where they have it, it's very cold. But it's, it's, it's comfortable right now. I'm sorry our Internet didn't allow us to spend more time together because I have a big announcement to make to you today. And it would have been good to be able to spend that time with you since you know, it would have been good to be able to spend that time with you. Big announcement. Some of you all are so some of you guys are so you. You all are so tuned into the political scenery. People been texting me. Oh, you gone. You're going to run for the plp. You're going to run for the F M. You're going to run in the Bible lecture you all kind of things I told you. Some of y' all might like what I have to say and some might not like. So you know, y' all hear what y' all wanna hear it. Y' all hear what the announcement is? You sure? What do I have to say? What do I have to announce to you? Calm down, Relax. Calm down. Well, I wanted to tell you that Z Live is moving from this 2 o' clock, 4 o' clock slot to the 12 o', clock, the 2 o' clock slot beginning October 14th. That's what I wanted to tell you. So we're moving our time slot audience collaborative decision. So we're going to move from 2pm to 4pm to 12pm to 2pm Monday to Friday. No running, no by election, no general election. Just a time change. Same show, same approach. I don't know what we're gonna do about Fridays. I doubt that can happen later. They used to. But 12 to 2, that's the announcement beginning October 14th. And if all goes well, we'll have a wonderful, wonderful guest for you on the first date. Okay? Got it. Ah, boy. Y' all behave yourself now. Behave yourself. Behave yourself. Behave yourself. Behave yourself. Say whoo. See most chivalry, C Live is going to be moving to 2:00 clock salon. Okay, that's what I wanted to let you know about. About. All right. Boy, you something else. Oh, yam into something else. Something else. Something else. This text is. Yeah, you running Z. You run into a new slot? Yeah, yeah, that, that's what it is. I'm running to a new slot. That's what I'm doing. All right, there you go. So someone said, now I can sleep. So I have. I have had lots of people, lots of people ask me about the consequences of the passing of Von Miller and the comments being made by the leader, the opposition. And so I thought maybe we would have a word about that today. My word about it today. All right. But producer, I need you to accommodate us with an earlier than usual break. So again, you're listening to Z Live. I'm Survival. I'm your host. We'll be back after this break. [00:08:22] Speaker D: For fast, reliable and impactful printing services. Look no further. Let printmasters bring your masterpiece to life. We stand by our quality products that is second to none. Our affordable pricing and friendly efficiency makes Printmasters the ultimate choice for all your printing needs. We can deliver any type of printing services from banners to booklets to business cards. You name it, we can print it. 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[00:09:32] Speaker F: Boy, what's serious? Tell me. [00:09:33] Speaker G: All right. [00:09:33] Speaker C: Well, today boss gave his boy one big, big contract and nobody else get a chance. [00:09:37] Speaker F: And nobody say nothing. Boy, you know that ain't right. You know government contracts ain't supposed to go that way. [00:09:42] Speaker C: Yeah, but nobody's saying nothing. Boss man just tell people to sign the papers. Then he sent me to meet his boy downtown and collect this envelope. [00:09:49] Speaker F: You need to tell somebody. You need to become a whistleblower. [00:09:51] Speaker C: You know I a real man, but. [00:09:53] Speaker F: I never blow no whistle. [00:09:54] Speaker C: I be drunk. [00:09:54] Speaker H: Junk. [00:09:55] Speaker F: No way. A whistleblower is someone who tells people what they see when they see something wrong happening at work. [00:10:00] Speaker C: But I ain't no whistleblower and I ain't no snitch. I still why dinner? [00:10:03] Speaker F: Ain't nobody gonna know it's you. All you gotta do is call Crime Stoppers. Or you could text them from inside the Crack Crime Bahamas app. They don't ask about you and your call goes straight through to Miami. So nobody know you is. And if you text, your message get mixed up like Kong Salad. Calls 328-8477 from Nassau or 2423-008477 from the family Islands. [00:10:24] Speaker D: Love the show. Want to give your support. Become a sponsor today. Call 302-2300 for our rates and packages. That's 302-2300. Become a sponsor on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all day. [00:10:43] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM fresh news, smart talk all day. [00:10:54] Speaker B: I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid to take a stand Take a stand Everybody walk this road together through the storm, whatever weather, cold, the warm. Just let me know that you're not alone I'll get. [00:11:21] Speaker C: Welcome back. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to Z Live. I'm Chevalgo Lang, your host again. So glad that you could join us here today on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon where I am coming to you live. It's not pre recorded FLAG STAFF F L A G S T A F F Flagstaff, Arizona Quite a. It's more of a suburban, ruralish kind of place. Beautiful place actually quiet place. It's 7,000ft up so it's really elevated there. You notice that when you get here it's not. It's not low lying at all and you if you're not hydrated, you feel it, you know. So that's where I am today. So I was saying so as you. [00:12:36] Speaker G: Know. [00:12:40] Speaker C: The honorable Juan Miller passed away unexpectedly and the constitution requires that in such a circumstance there ought to be a by election held within 60 days of the seat being declared vacant. So 60 days. The prime minister and those would have to mount that by election. The Prime Minister of course has said that yes, his only advice is folks to stay alert and ready. He has not announced a date for that by election and frankly I'm not sure when that date runs from quite but in any event a by election would have to be held within by the end of the year and so the only way that by election isn't held is if the Prime Minister decides to go to election in which case the House would be dissolved and in the dissolution of the House all the seats would be declared vacant and therefore a the Governor General will have to write a writ of a requiring poll to be taken for all of those seats for elections beyond all of those seats and those returns brought back to him to her right Michael Pentad, the leader of the opposition has been making the case that there that the government ought to not in his words, waste resources and what have you and simply go to elections since elections are imminent, as even the Prime Minister has indicated. Of course the Prime Minister has no requirement to listen to the leader of the opposition and the leader opposition has no limits on his ability to say what he thinks should happen. He's the alternate prime minister and if he has a view about how things ought to be done, that's his view. It's only just like everybody else's Opinion upon the planet. It's his view accepted or unaccepted. Just like the Prime Minister can decide within the bounds of his own what he wants to do. I think quite frankly, it is strategic for the leader of the opposition to take the approach he's taking for many reasons to take that approach. Right. I mean, frankly, had it been me, and I've spoken to many others who have been in that position, to others who've been in that position, had it been them, they would not. They would not contest the seat. Right, because you're going to contest a seat already held by the governing party, with the governing party having all of its political resources at its disposable, but all the resources of the government at its disposal. And the track record of winning these seats angered government. The F M won the seat that the Celindon occupied when he was retired. But F M was the government, right. Mr. Ingram won the seat in. In Marco City when David Thompson won that by election after the death of successor was Whitfield Acorn of the FM and in a F M city. So that was a unique set of circumstances. A unique circumstance. That was a unique circumstance. All the others, the government, Wendy's thing, man. So, Mr. Pinhead, what do you say? I scared angry run? Oh, he wouldn't say that. He'd say to be more strategic and say, listen man, let's go to the big dance, you know, let's go to big dance and save the people money. Get you if you think you could win a new permit mandate from people or election. All right, so there you have it. At the end of the day, the Prime Minister will do what the Prime Minister will do. But I think he's controlling the circumstances, I really do. Now, if no. If no party contests a by election, that makes it easy for him. You know, that happened before, remember, when Orville Turnquest resigned his seat and Bill Allen was the senator and Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance. He went vied for that seat to replace. To replace Orville. And the PIP did not contest it. The PRP did not contest it. So. So William walked into office. Right. We'll see what happens. It says, good afternoon, Mr. Lang. Enjoy your trip? Yes, you said 20 degrees Celsius, that that's why something. It's snowing. Roughly 68 degrees Fahrenheit. Not too warm to snow or most times that'd be too warm to snow. It says, good afternoon, Mr. Lang. Congratulations to you. I'm so happy to hear this announcement from you today because I will now have More time to listen to your show and then I can do school pickup after and still be there on time for my children. It's good. Congratulations again. Blessings. I appreciate it. We will see. Say up. Agree go whole hog Brave door said they spent $10 million on the West End Bimini's election. Total waste of resources. Did they spend $10 million? Of whose money? When did, when did he say that? When did he say? When did the prime minister say they spent $10 million? The PLB spent $10 million? I don't believe that at all. Did the government spend $10 million? That's possible. Maybe if you consider all and sundry. We have a call on the line. Go ahead call over listening to you. I go ahead call over listening to you or they drop. You know we like man. So the PLP sent some money on a by election. FNs spend some money too. I don't think they spend, I don't think they'll spend plp but they spent some money because you know they had to move people up and down between Nassau and, and Grand Baham. And I saw the movement, I saw, I, I was down by the airport and I saw the plane came in, the PM and all them came in, so forth and so forth. Now what part of that government paid for, what part PLP paid for, I don't know. But it all adds up. And so these things can be costly, you know and by elections are unique in that by elections put a focus on just that one location, those one set of candidates. Unlike the general election where you have people spread all over the country and you have to spread resources all over the country. So now you got people focusing dollars and focusing time and focusing energy and focusing effort and intelligence and the like on one spot. And that can, that can add up to a lot. That can add up to a lot. So I can understand why the opposition might not want to contest, but maybe, maybe the COI will. I mean, obviously, you know, we don't. I doubt the DNA will because the DNA said it isn't even going to contest the general election. That's what I was told. Okay, so we'll see. This says we thought the surprise was that you were celebrating an anniversary of being cancer free, regardless of the fact we are indeed proud of you and the level of empowerment you bring to the area. So I thank you. Cancer. I wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have been a year yet because you know, I did my last, I did my last cross state exact prostate test, my PSA about six months ago. So, and that was the, when it, when it showed negligible. Right. So it wouldn't be now until next year sometime then I would say, you know, based on. But I am cancer free. Hallelujah. Bless the Lord. Thank you, Jesus. Hallelujah. Thank you, Lord. Bless you, Jesus. Now people who are not so can still say thank you, Lord. Hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. Bless you, Jesus. Because God has his own way of working. And you know, I just, honestly, I can't always figure it out. It's a mystery to me sometimes. And sometimes I some. I get a little irritated when I think about it. Right. But then I remember you've got, you know. We have a call on the line. Go ahead, caller. Listening to you. [00:22:54] Speaker G: How you doing, man? [00:22:55] Speaker C: I'm right here, my friend. What's up? [00:22:57] Speaker G: Everything good? See the G from over there. When you're coming back, bring me back one souvenir, please. [00:23:05] Speaker C: I got you. [00:23:06] Speaker G: All right, thanks, man. [00:23:07] Speaker C: They have some nice looking pebbles on the ground, right? [00:23:09] Speaker G: You know, I believe my address. Hey, Mr. Lang, listen man, I think that, that, that Mr. Davis and his administration, they don't have the pulse of the people. I think that he should go for a new mandate, go to the behemoth people for a new mandate, but I don't see that happening. I think Mr. Davis is gonna use every inch of his, every bit of his five years in this term. So I think, I think that by election is, is what, what's going to take place now with a by election taking place and the Free National Movement aside, They're not going to contest it. I don't know if that's a good thing. I would like to see with the popularity. [00:24:01] Speaker C: Why, why, why don't you think it's a good thing if. For them not to contest it the. [00:24:06] Speaker G: Same way it was in the Western Indemnity? You can't leave the citizens out there and say you're not gonna to be the representative and expect them to just, you know, the next opportunity you get, come and vote for you, I think. [00:24:22] Speaker C: For a few months. And they under. FNM did not represent that seat before. As I indicated in an example with civilian. The PLP did it and not contest. You lose a by election in West End, you come back and lose another by election and then you have a general election coming up. The momentum of losing is now with you. [00:24:47] Speaker G: I think it's, it's sort of hard for the candidate, the F M candidate to lose. Golden eyes. [00:24:57] Speaker C: You, you, you, you. Well, how come they didn't win in the first when outcome Mr. Miller was the candidate, I mean the MP. [00:25:05] Speaker G: Well, I, I think the country, the country at that time did not see eye to eye with us in the free movement and our leader. And I think the country wanted to send a message to that leader at that time. But as it is now, the tables are turned. The country now is, is really upset and angry with the way things are going with this administration. What is in Brian Brown has been on the ground I think some nine years straight. Brian Brown is now to run a constituency and I think that if the party does not want to back him, even though he is the party's candidate, I would like to see members of the party take off their red shirt and wear the color. Would he go in as an independent, win that seat and still become a member of Parliament? [00:25:59] Speaker C: I appreciate your enthusiasm my friend, but I can tell you based on all I know and understand of politics, I do not agree with you. But I mean I understand your perspective. [00:26:09] Speaker G: Well, you know, if Mr. Brown stay out and anybody else, when I see the reference the plp, I think that person would be the, the shortest serving member of Parliament. [00:26:26] Speaker C: Okay. [00:26:29] Speaker G: Bring me, bring me to the pebble. [00:26:32] Speaker C: Well, I mean I don't. If your candidate, if your candidate runs independently, I don't think The F&MS. Would say to him that their F and M is not to vote for him. So if he wants to run independently, that's not an issue. But you're not going to get the FNM involved with that. So that by subterfuge or what we call proxy warfare, they are seen to have been beaten because they were back in the independent Canada. I wouldn't do that. That makes no sense. I might as well just run. I just might as well go contest. [00:27:05] Speaker G: Yeah, you're right. You're right. But my thing is if the partner, you know, fund a by election, they're not going to fund a candidate in a by election. I think the candidate will do great without the funds. [00:27:19] Speaker C: Then that candidate should go and press forget what the FM decides to do. The candidates should say I can beat the BLB in the seat. [00:27:28] Speaker G: Right? And minus the F M candidate. If that candidate decide to be independent candidate like Brian Brown, if he decided to be an independent candidate and minus the F and I'm sending the candidate there, he has all the support. He has the Free Nationalist National Movement support. I mean the, the voters, the Free National Movement voter support. He has the disgruntled PLP support. He has the people. [00:27:54] Speaker C: That's the assumption you make. You Gotta. You gotta think that F M's and others for by election are actually. They may support him gonna go out. You got to think that that is. So there's more than just the willingness of people to support you. You know, elections require mobilizing people to move because a lots of people will tell you I can't get to the polls. There are elderly people, there are disabled people. Then there are other people who got to go take off from. From. From business, bro. Let me tell you something. It ain't people. Hearts are willing many times, but their flesh is weak. And that's why you got to help the flesh. [00:28:33] Speaker G: I think the ca. I think the candidate. The candidate will have all of that covered, I think. [00:28:38] Speaker C: Then keep then. Then keep Mr. Panther 10 them out of it and just go in the by election. Nothing stops him from doing that. [00:28:45] Speaker G: Yes. And I don't think that'll bring no rift between him nor the Free National Movement. I think it's just. [00:28:51] Speaker C: Well, I could tell you. No, but I could tell you this much, brother. A party makes a decision and you want to be a part of that franchise. [00:29:01] Speaker G: You have two party line. [00:29:05] Speaker C: Well, you know, you. You and the party got to come to terms because, you know, as I said, see, the party doesn't want to have to be embroiled with a discussion by the PLP that. Well, you know, they say they wasn't running, but you know, they run, right, because that man was their candidate. Oh, dang it. They're gonna try playing like they did. But that was their candidate. Everybody don't want to be mad with that. [00:29:26] Speaker G: Yeah, we're looking at it from that. From that standpoint. But Mr. Lang, listen, you. You haven't noticed. You know, you notice lately now the. The members, the PLP MPS are now marking the mana of the FM candidate. [00:29:43] Speaker C: I can't say that I noticed that. I. I do notice that candidates and, And I noticed the MPs in the PLP. I do notice them being more visible with social media and what they're doing and stuff like that. I do notice that. But that's not unusual. As you come towards an election, you try to tell people and show people what you're doing. [00:30:05] Speaker G: The candidate from the Free National Movement over there in Foxville, he decided he's gonna offer the children a hot. A hot snack or hot meal after school. Now, over here in Garden in Golden Gates, the Member of Parliament decides she's going to offer the children after school some cups because of the Member in. [00:30:28] Speaker C: No, but you. No, no, that's your Assumption is because of that. But I mean, if, but if you, if somebody's doing something good, you know, the Bible say, mark a perfect man and follow him, you know, so if you're doing something good, that ain't unusual, right? [00:30:40] Speaker G: But then these, these things wasn't being done by these. [00:30:45] Speaker C: But, bro, but would you. What's the problem? What's the point problem? If, if the voters look at it, say, well, you know, they follow in now it's problematic. [00:30:55] Speaker G: I just thought that was awesome. I thought that awesome to see that, you know. [00:30:58] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I mean, if that's what it is. But I mean, you. That's an assumption, I think. But, but if that's what it is, that's what it is. [00:31:04] Speaker G: And the reality is now I have seen candidates. [00:31:08] Speaker C: I have seen candidates on the opposite side do things when I was running and I picked it up. I mean, that only makes sense. That's smart, you know, that's pretty smart. Why would I not. Because it's them that don't make no sense, man. Some. Somebody doing some smart. Do something smart. If you didn't think about it, right, Started coming up with a plan. [00:31:31] Speaker G: Okay, yeah, yeah. But yes, Of. Of. Of neglect and not, not. Not having the vision. It shows that after, you know, a candidate, inspiring candidate or a candidate to come and do things and you decide, well, you know, it's. Let me try it. It shows that the persons in power are not in touch with the people. [00:31:55] Speaker C: That's a narrative you have and you could carry that one as a supporter. Thanks for calling. I appreciate you calling. Thanks a lot. It says, good afternoon, Mr. Lang. Oh, this says nice temperature, it's comfortable. Fall temperatures mild. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Said great that you will come on earlier time slot. Started to think that you were leaving radio. Congratulations to you and continue to educate. Thank you. So I wouldn't spend money on a by election my opinion. We have another call on the line. Go ahead caller, we're listening to you. Hello? Go ahead, miss. Go ahead, call. Are we listening to you? Okay. It says Mr. Lang. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. People support Brian because he's an F M. Yeah, that. There's that too, you know, there's that too. And that. That's a good point. Actually. Say yes according to force an estimate out of them. No, see, we don't need to contest that. I hope Mr. Pinta don't mind the pressure. They will throw everything behind a by election. No, please. These people have me waffling at this time. Let them call the f M a chicken, which is coi the PRP narrative. No contest, please. And you can't listen, in this business of life, you gotta don't mind them people calling your names, you do the right thing. Do, do the right thing. Everybody. Most people who've ever accomplished anything significant in the world have been called names, right? People. You let people go see you, you ain't worried squat. Go ahead, caller be listening to you. [00:33:25] Speaker G: Good. Say, how you doing? [00:33:26] Speaker C: Right here, man, what's up? [00:33:28] Speaker G: Yeah, don't ask. Calling you out. I don't know, some of them imitation. [00:33:32] Speaker C: He has a view, he has a. [00:33:34] Speaker G: View, he has a point like you say or something isn't Yugi? Yeah, but also if you see flatters, flattery, that's the best thing that ever happened to someone. But anyhow, yeah, nice that you're moving to the new slot. And also this, this, this by election, what you think about it? If they can. [00:33:55] Speaker C: In terms of what, in terms of. [00:33:57] Speaker G: What you think is a good move for them to do. [00:34:02] Speaker C: For who to do? You mean for the who for who? [00:34:04] Speaker G: For the PRB to have a by election. [00:34:11] Speaker C: I don't have a. I, I don't have a view on it one way or the other. I mean if they want to, I don't have a view, I can't say that's bad, that's good. If they don't want to, I can't say that's bad, that's good. I don't follow view of it one. [00:34:22] Speaker H: Way or the other. [00:34:23] Speaker G: I mean, if the shoe is on your foot, what would you have done if I. [00:34:27] Speaker C: If it would depend, it would depend on the circumstance thought I was in with the people of the country. It depends, you know, if I felt like I was a strong political party, I mean in office, that we were doing great and the numbers suggested it, the metrics suggested it, our feedback from the people suggested it. I would have the by election. If I had another year left, I'd have the by election. [00:34:59] Speaker G: Yeah. I ought to go through it myself because. [00:35:03] Speaker C: Mostly because, Mostly because I would expect under those circumstances the opposition not to contest. I would expect it wouldn't. I think I, I would think to myself an opposition not contesting would be a wise thing to do and so I'd be sailing into replacing the person I lost. [00:35:20] Speaker G: Yeah, but what do you think about this? This? There are a lot of people when you say I have immigration crisis, right then yeah, the certain parties. Oh, we don't have a crisis. We have a crisis right back in the day when immigration used to go round up like how they doing and Texan caicus now that was a norm for here in the Bahamas but all of a sudden that died down. You understand? [00:35:41] Speaker C: Yeah. If, if I. If I. If I were in office and I didn't think we were that strong and and I thought that didn't. We didn't have great popularity if the opposition, the major opposition said there wasn't contestant I'd have to buy election I could stretch my time out as long as I could stretch it out to do some things I think could help. I could only. You can only try. I think what could help. Thanks for calling, brother. [00:36:10] Speaker G: All right. [00:36:11] Speaker C: Okay. We're gonna take a break. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to Z Live. I'm Chevalang, your host. We'll be back after this break. [00:36:18] Speaker B: Not afraid I'm not afraid to take a stand Take a stand everybody everybody come take my come take my we'll walk this road together through the storm Whatever weather cover the wall Let me know that you're not alone I love if you feel like you. [00:36:47] Speaker A: This October, Bahama invites you to indulge your senses at the culinary and arts festival where world class flavors meet breathtaking creativity in the heart of the Bahamas. Join us October 22nd through 26th for an unforgettable celebration featuring culinary legends Marcus Samuelsson, Dario zecchini, Simeon Hall Jr. And Scott King Conant. Alongside a vibrant lineup of chefs and mixologists. 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[00:38:15] Speaker D: You see how Cora eye look funny all black up yesterday but she say she bump into a wall when she's running after the churn Nam yeah but last Saturday you see her arm was all black and blue right what you saying? You think something wrong between her and Jack? I ain't sure. But you know Jack is gentleman a jealous man. I hear him and Cora last Friday. I hear him say he hear Cora have eyes for junior. Now you know that ain't true. Cora is a good woman. Does mind her business, take care of them turn and go to church every Sunday. So what you think we should do? I think we should report Jack. You know Corey don't say nothing but silence hides violence. And we don't want to line up in the cemetery. Not me. I ain't getting in nobody business. Then Jack come after me and I land up next to Cora. No man. We could call a text crime stopper and remember we can even get some good grocery money for our tip. Remind me again how does work? We can call them in Miami at 328 TIPS or 328-8477. Or when we in the island call toll free at 300 tips or you don't have no minutes. Use the crack crime Bahamas app and we could text them and the messages get on mix up. Mix up before it leave your phone so nobody can know what you saying. So we waiting on then let's go earn some grocery money. [00:39:16] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all day. [00:39:52] Speaker C: Welcome back. We're back ladies and gentlemen to Z Live. I'm Survival Lang, your host. So glad that you could join us here today on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. On this beautiful Tuesday afternoon. Don't forget starting October 14th, Z Live will switch to 12 to 2 as opposed to 2 to 4 starting October 14th. We have a call on the line. Go ahead caller, we're listening to you. [00:40:17] Speaker J: Good afternoon Mr. Lion. Can you hear me now? [00:40:20] Speaker C: Hey, what's going on man? I hear from you in in corn. [00:40:23] Speaker J: Days I. I right here. Let's say to you I be up busy. Listen congratulations to your trap to two. [00:40:33] Speaker G: Good. [00:40:33] Speaker C: Thank you. Thank you friend. Thank you. [00:40:35] Speaker J: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man up you go into that trial too. But listen, the saving motion you get and the late ob wills come by election. It's going to be the same at the late warm Miller. It is going to be declared majority rule all the way in that by election. What'd you say? Hello? [00:41:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Hello? Hello? Hello. Can you hear me? Yeah, sorry, I was muted. Sorry about that. I was muted. Yeah. [00:41:29] Speaker J: You got what I said? [00:41:31] Speaker C: Yeah. So you think. You think they're just going to declare it. [00:41:35] Speaker J: That again? [00:41:37] Speaker C: You just think they're going to declare it vacant and there's been no contest. [00:41:42] Speaker H: I mean they want to. [00:41:44] Speaker J: The other party want to waste some by election money. I mean I love rallies, I enjoy rallies. I, I appreciate rallies, but no, let. [00:41:56] Speaker C: Me ask you a question, pumpkinita. If, if party's contested, who do you think would win? [00:42:00] Speaker J: Government body. [00:42:02] Speaker C: Yeah. You think. [00:42:05] Speaker J: My body. Majority rule. [00:42:08] Speaker C: Okay. [00:42:08] Speaker J: They're gonna win that. Oh, how would I put India? They're gonna win that. You see right now it's high on emotion. [00:42:16] Speaker G: You understand what I'm saying? [00:42:18] Speaker J: I, I, I follow. I follow. I love rallies. Like I like I said, I love rallies and I follow the western OBI was arrested in Bimini by election. There's a lot of powerful emotion in that emotion alone would say what guy named Keith Smith would have won that seat. [00:42:43] Speaker C: Not Keith Smith. Not Keith Smith. [00:42:47] Speaker J: I know it's a Kate. [00:42:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I know you mean yeah Mr. Smith. [00:42:53] Speaker J: I know he would have won that seat. You know what I mean? So it's going to be same with one Miller. I mean if they want to, if they want to make some money, go ahead but I mean it's PRP all the way and that Golden Isles, right? Golden Isles. Golden Isles constituency. I mean go ahead, raise some money. But at the end of the day I enjoy. I'm going to be enjoying the rallies. [00:43:26] Speaker C: But you know what the you. But you know what the F M is going to do. The F M is not going to contest it. So you know that's a non issue. [00:43:38] Speaker J: That's a smart move. Let me tell why that's a smart move. Whoever win that seat, it sometimes determines when the government. [00:43:49] Speaker C: Well, I can tell you Dumbai elections, they have that track record. I say they do have that track record. Ingram won the by election in Marco City. Won the general election. [00:44:06] Speaker J: That's right. That's why I love history. [00:44:09] Speaker G: History is powerful. [00:44:12] Speaker J: So maybe, maybe they're afraid. [00:44:15] Speaker C: Maybe. Who's afraid? Maybe he was afraid. I don't, I don't, I. I don't think, I don't think anything having to do with fair comes into play. Deciding not to run and contest the next that by election. I just think that must. That, that just sense that just sensible to me that just in good calculation scared. And, and since when, since when has fail been something people like to criticize? All the time. All the time. Not sometimes fair when you're being cowardly, that's a different story. But sometimes fear is good. But God say the fear of the button. Isn't that a good thing, man? You know we have a healthy fear of animals like Lions and them since one sense one is that stupid. You have a fear of touching electrical wires that don't have insulation. Fair. And I. I didn't tell you all before anybody could go see me that nonsense door Sometimes I am scared and thank God I'm so that fair keep you from doing nonsense. Kingsley Smith. Yeah. Kingsley is this is the. Is the person. Yeah. Anyways I think. I don't think the Prime Minister is going to call. So let me give you my calculation about the general election again. So Prime Minister andor came to office in September 2021. September 16th, 2021. So presumably five years would be actually five years from the day of the first sitting of the House. I think it is. Right. And so that. And that was sometime in October. So he has up to. I think then unless something emergency, some crisis happens and then there's a year you could have and then not call an election. Right. But that's in a crisis an emergency situation. [00:46:24] Speaker G: So. [00:46:26] Speaker C: I, the Prime Minister will either call election in September again which I doubt. Which I doubt but. But. But what? Not likely to do it in the summer. You don't send people to the polls in the heat because typically that causes some issues. Finland did that in August. That did not work out very well for him. So you know, you either look at me because if you go earlier you'll be getting into that Easter season and March is possible. March is possible. January and February try to avoid. Because people coming off for Christmas and they broke us nobody business. So I think he has some time. He has some time. He wants to stretch out for more reasons than one. And I think he and the fm. The FM has basically let him off the hook a little bit too because with not contesting it then he could sail into replacing a candidate and not have to do much to do. So you know, so. So I think, I think there'll be a by election. I don't think it'll be eventful, but I think there will be a by election and we'll move on from there. But what they won't have is the opportunity to say why we put it on them in that election. Put it on them. Let's go to the big dance. Now you won't be able to say that. Yeah, but I asked you to go to the big dance. I don't have time to play in no little small dance. Let's go big dance. Right, so. So that's all that psychology playing, you know, going on. You're listening to Z Live and Survival. I'm your host we're going to take a break for news. When we come back, I'll talk to you about some tourism. Some tourism. Let me come back. We'll be back after this break. [00:48:51] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, your station for up to the minute news and intelligent, interactive and engaging conversations. 96.9 FM. [00:49:08] Speaker B: Take a stand, take a stand Everybody, everybody Come take my, Come take my we'll walk this road together through the storm Whatever weather call the war Let me know that you're not alone. [00:49:30] Speaker C: Welcome back. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to Z Live. I'm Chicago Lang, your host. They're so glad that you can join us today here on Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon. If you want to give us a call, please feel free to call us on 323-623-236232 or 325-4316, 325-4316 from the Valley Islands, 2423-00-5720. You can text us on 422-4796 or you can what's happening on 439-3043 this Texas, Mr. Lang, that called the mentioned history regarding the by election. Well, according to history, no government has won back to back since, oh, since 97. That's true. That is true. I mean the reality is. Get mad with me if you want. The reality is if you look at the trend of elections over the last once since 2002, right? Since that's 23 years. That's almost, that's almost five elections. We change government every single one. So if you're sitting in government, that's not a trend that works for you. Now can that trend be broken? Of course it can be the PLP125 years of elections five times in a row and then lost. So it's possible an Ingram then won twice. So it's possible. But I'm saying there are and there are some guidance that provide cautionary notes to what is happening from history. Right. It says Z. Do you think that in the off chance that the COI wins a by election, this will sway the voting population open COI during a general election, give them some momentum. If the COI contests a by election in golden eyes and win, I think that has major, major implications for general election. Major it may cause some people to reset their compass in what is possible and therefore support the coi. More people may support the coi. It may get some people thinking, you know what we meant to stop fooling around on the FNM side, the PLP side and joking and thinking we could just chill and everything would be everything. And so that could cause them to redouble their efforts. So. But it would have major, major implications, I believe for sure. This text says, Mr. Lang, should a by, by law be called 90 days after deceased MP? No, a by election has to be called within 60 days of the election. That of the seat being declared vacant within 60 days, not 90, 60 days. Okay, you all love elections. Parties put a lot of energy into elections in the Bahamas for sure. You all think. I know I said I was gonna go to tourism, but let me back up a little bit. Do you all think we will have about the same amount of persons voting this election as we had in our reg. All of our elections prior to the pandemic? So for instance, we are likely to get up to 85% of eligible voters actually voting in this upcoming election as opposed to the 67% that voted during the pandemic. Do you think that we are likely to get back there? Because that I think would be a major determinant, a major determinant of this election outcome. Major. But the question is, are we seeing a sort of permanent reduction in election participation in the Bahamas or was that a one off something that happened during the pandemic? If you're the PLP of the fnm, you ought to be looking at that in a very serious way. You ought to be considering whether. [00:54:23] Speaker G: That. [00:54:24] Speaker C: Is likely to happen. In fact, if I were them, I would do a poll. I would do a poll. Did you vote last election? No. Are you likely to vote next election? And I would want that information because that could be a major determinant of strategy going forward. You have a call on the line. Go ahead, call up a. Listen to you. [00:54:45] Speaker G: Good afternoon. [00:54:46] Speaker C: Hi, how you doing? [00:54:48] Speaker G: I didn't vote in the last election, but I will vote in this election. [00:54:52] Speaker C: Can I ask, can I ask you a question? Do you have numbers of people who you know did not do the same thing as you did not do and is likely to do the same thing you're going to do this election? [00:55:03] Speaker G: Numerous. [00:55:05] Speaker C: Numerous. Eh, yes. Can I also ask you why, why didn't you vote last election? [00:55:10] Speaker G: I wasn't motivated to it. [00:55:12] Speaker C: Okay, so it wasn't the pandemic itself. [00:55:15] Speaker G: No, it wasn't the pandemic. No. [00:55:17] Speaker C: Unravel with the people who did what you did. You think motivation was more so the case than pandemic itself also. [00:55:24] Speaker G: But really what is motivating me now is what's going on in the country right now, that's basically. [00:55:30] Speaker C: Okay. [00:55:30] Speaker G: That's mostly what's motivating, you know? [00:55:33] Speaker C: Okay, what motivate. What demotivated you last time? Why. Why were you demotivated last time? [00:55:39] Speaker G: Last election? [00:55:40] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. What would. Why was you. Why were you not motivated? [00:55:43] Speaker G: Okay, so to be honest, what really, why I really wasn't motivated was I really wanted to vote FNL and definitely didn't want to go here. [00:55:59] Speaker C: Okay. [00:56:00] Speaker G: I wasn't motivated by document. [00:56:03] Speaker C: I see. I understand. Okay. And your motivation this time is this, why is to do what? [00:56:10] Speaker G: What's going on with immigration in this country? [00:56:13] Speaker C: Okay, you sound to me like you are in your 40s, maybe 30s. 40s, is that true? [00:56:22] Speaker G: Much older than that. [00:56:24] Speaker C: Much older than that. Really? Boy, you got a young voice, my friend. So you. What, what age category are you in? [00:56:32] Speaker G: Old 50s. [00:56:34] Speaker C: Okay, okay, okay, okay. [00:56:35] Speaker G: All right. [00:56:36] Speaker C: Okay. So you mature voter. Yeah, yeah. [00:56:40] Speaker G: So let me ask you a question, though. I heard you mention eligible voters. [00:56:45] Speaker H: What? [00:56:45] Speaker G: What? [00:56:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:46] Speaker H: What qualifies? [00:56:48] Speaker G: I know what it is, but qualified. [00:56:50] Speaker C: Well, a person who's a Bahamian citizen, a person who's a Bahamian citizen is eligible. Is eligible to register to vote. So once you register, Once you register to vote, you are eligible voter. [00:57:04] Speaker G: So does that, being a holder of a Bahamian passport makes you eligible to vote? [00:57:11] Speaker C: Well, the assumption is that you hold a Bahamian passport, you're a Bahamian citizen. So unless there's probable cause to, say, suspect that that passport is fraudulent, no one is going to look behind that. If you present your passport and the parliamentary registrar department is satisfied in the credibility of that document, you will be registered to vote. [00:57:33] Speaker G: Well, then, just by that alone, just by that alone being the holder of a Bahamian passport, definitely the voting block would be larger, much larger this general election. [00:57:47] Speaker C: Why? Why do you say that? [00:57:49] Speaker G: Because, Mr. Lang, we have a lot of people walking around with Bahamian passports. [00:57:55] Speaker H: I mean, yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah. [00:57:57] Speaker C: But, yeah, but, yeah, but, but, but, but, no, but back off now. So I don't know what the implications are you making, but if you are. If you have a child who was born, Bahamian citizen will have a child who was born. That child was zero years old when the last election happened. I mean, sorry. I mean, well, the child was not eligible to vote because they didn't reach the age, but also didn't have a passport. You could get them a passport now, and so that's a new passport, so that doesn't work. [00:58:30] Speaker G: I'm not speaking about those particular people. I'm Speaking about new people. [00:58:35] Speaker C: No, but I mean. No, no, no, no. See, but see, I don't want you to do that. See, see, I, I don't want you put out there and try to imply without evidence that, oh, we got all these people who are passports who ain't Bahamian citizens and so forth. Because that's a, that's a, that's a talk been out there that, that nobody is evidencing. That's just talk. [00:58:54] Speaker G: No, Mr. Lang, I know this for sure. I have evidence. I notice. [00:58:57] Speaker C: No, you do not. You do not know that. You do not know. Okay, I'm not saying that there aren't fraudulent passports out there. You do not know. [00:59:05] Speaker G: I didn't say fraudulent. You used the word fraudulent. I didn't say. [00:59:08] Speaker C: Yeah, but, I mean, but, but. [00:59:11] Speaker G: The reason I asked you, what qualifies you? What makes it you eligible to vote in the country? [00:59:18] Speaker C: But it isn't, it isn't holding a passport though. It isn't holding a passport. [00:59:22] Speaker G: Okay. [00:59:22] Speaker H: Okay. [00:59:23] Speaker G: That's why I asked you, so I can get an education. As to what I gave you. [00:59:27] Speaker C: I gave you the reason I said being a Bahamian citizen. That's what I said. [00:59:32] Speaker G: Okay. All right. [00:59:33] Speaker C: So that's a teen, the age of 18. [00:59:37] Speaker G: Okay. Okay. Thank you. [00:59:40] Speaker C: Yeah, that's, that's the, that's the qualification that, that you're a Baming citizen who's attained the age of 18. You live in the country and you ordinarily reside in the country. [00:59:51] Speaker H: Appreciate that. [00:59:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I just want to make sure. I'm not saying you're doing it now, so I thank you for, for, for setting me clear. I just don't, you know, I know what's going on in some of the discussions we're having and, and I just want us to be. I'm reasonable. [01:00:08] Speaker G: That's why, that's why before I asked the question. I build a foundation. I listen to hear what you had to say. [01:00:14] Speaker C: Okay, I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. A Bayman citizen who has reached the age of 18 who ordinarily resides in the country. [01:00:22] Speaker G: Right. Okay, thank you. [01:00:24] Speaker C: Okay, thank you. Appreciate you, man. Thanks. We have another call on the line. This text is not as many as before COVID but much more than voted after Covid. So you don't think we will get back to pre Covid levels of voter participation, but you think we'll be more than Covid? So you believe that we have a permanent, probably reduction in our voter partisan patient rate or at least somewhat permanent? We have another call on the line. Go ahead caller, we're listening to you. Okay. [01:01:03] Speaker H: Okay. Good day. Good day to you, Mr. Lang. [01:01:05] Speaker C: Yes, good day. Hi. [01:01:06] Speaker H: By extension White Obama. I, I just want. [01:01:12] Speaker G: Share with the. [01:01:13] Speaker H: Bayman public my personal position as it relates to by election, general elections right now. There was a time I never considered any kind of third party. I was just stuck in the status quo. I always thought, said to myself that to vote for a third party, it's a waste of time. And now that thought has been inverted. Now for me to vote for PLP or FNM is a waste of my vote and not just a personal position. I speak for nobody else other than myself. [01:02:05] Speaker C: Okay. [01:02:06] Speaker H: Allowed to say that. [01:02:09] Speaker C: Can I ask you a question? Can I ask you a question? Did you vote last election? [01:02:14] Speaker H: Yes, sir. When I went in the box I went vote for a third party and at the last minute I just said no, it doesn't make sense, it's not going to make a difference. And then you know, you're in from that time up to now with other things that would have transpired. My life and even standing up and the sun is hot and I don't want to walk. I'm trying to catch a ride and I watch someone pass me. I'm walking and in zero time that person is out of sight. And where I'm going with that is that it just takes one step at a time. So if one person at a time we can come with a revolution. And that's the reason why I really came to where I'm at right now. [01:03:00] Speaker C: Okay, all right. No problems, you know. You know, can I say sid us to you though? When you exercise your choice to vote, whether you vote for a third party or you vote for independent candidate or you vote for a FNM or plp, doesn't matter, that's your choice. And that's the beauty of it, that's your choice. So it's never wasted. It is. You're doing what you have a constitutional and God given right to do which is to declare this is my choice. [01:03:35] Speaker H: Well, I would end by saying this is thank you, thank you. Right. I would end by saying this like only the only part of what the previous caller said is because I look in around so much is going on in the country that I am fighting with and it's like I've lost. But, but all faith and belief in our policy politicians today and for me personally, personally everything is personally the only chance I see of some of the changes I personally believe the country needs is outside of PLP and F and M, because I have given them countless, countless diamonds. I don't see the changes that me personally looking for for my country. [01:04:23] Speaker C: Give me one or two of the. [01:04:24] Speaker H: Changes you're looking for, okay, Mr. Lang, I'll tell you, even like in my area is construction. And I don't think that behemoth, anyone who possesses reasons, legal reasons, to be called the bohemian right, I don't think that we're well protected out there. It's been like that for a long time. I've been on the island on numerous contracts and there were times we had to call into the minister, some of things got rectified on the spot and some didn't. And when you go to different island, same recurrence and it's just everywhere and. [01:05:13] Speaker C: So, so, so foreign. So foreign participation in the workforce in your area of construction is a problem you don't see being. [01:05:23] Speaker H: All right, let me narrow that, let me narrow that bit. Not foreign labor itself, because there are times it's needed and other times there are persons who are investing certain amount of money, they enjoy certain privilege to bring in certain persons to do a specific work for them. I don't have an issue with that. But it just gets lower and lower and lower and pushes us out more and more. And in other instances it causes us to work for this or else. [01:05:58] Speaker C: Okay, yeah, but you, this is an important point you're making, but I just want to be clear on it. So you acknowledge that there are times when foreign participation may be warranted or acceptable, but what is the problem you would like to see fixed? Tell me that so I can understand it. [01:06:16] Speaker H: Okay, I would love, not like, I would love to see that there would be like some standards because, okay, for example, you have like low line jobs where we can use local labor and it's not being used. And then there are other we can do, but we're just not being allowed to do it. Now some, we talk to these persons on job, we'll ask them how much they get numb paid and stuff like that. And then we look, okay, just, just showing up hypothetical figure out that let's say the job is $5,000 they're getting. And I know you, your person deal with figures and numbers and five, right? But you get close, you develop a relationship to these persons and they will tell you, well man, we do want the job for this and stuff. Now I'm be fair. [01:07:18] Speaker C: Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, brother, let me tell you something. I'm tell you something, right? So you're Talking to somebody who's been in political. In politics, who's been in government, who is now responsible for public Policy Institute. When you are trying to get a problem solved, what you need is succinctness and clarity. So I'm listening to you and I get a sense of what you're saying, but you keep. You keep going different places. So what I'm hearing you say is you would like for there to be really a standard setup where there's no question that in this area of work no one would be tolerated other than Bahamians. Unless. Is that what you're saying? [01:08:10] Speaker H: No. On the left part. Unless. I think you're coming back. [01:08:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Unless. Unless all Bahamian. Possible Bahamian workers in that area have been exhausted and therefore now others participate. Is that what you're saying? [01:08:29] Speaker J: Yeah. [01:08:30] Speaker H: Okay. Not. Not in totality, but that's a part of. Part of it. [01:08:35] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, but see, you gotta see, see, let me tell you. No, hold on. Let me tell you the problem. You. If you present me with a problem that says I'm not gonna vote for you because I can't see you're fixing this problem, but you can't bring me clarity about the problem, okay? How can I fix it? [01:08:54] Speaker H: Okay, I respect what you're saying. I respect what you're saying for the reasons that I'm not prepared to say something. Then I'm gonna rest that alone. That's right now. [01:09:01] Speaker C: Okay. [01:09:02] Speaker H: All right. [01:09:03] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. Well, I hope I, I hope you give. I hope you give the politicians who you will talk to, because I don't see, I don't. I don't want. Even if you, if it was a third party. I don't want Buddy telling me, hey, yeah, I can fix that for you, even though I ain't clear what you're trying to get fixed just because I want your vote. [01:09:22] Speaker H: No, and I agree with you and listen to what I said. You must have. [01:09:26] Speaker G: You. [01:09:28] Speaker H: I'm not prepared to present anything really direct because to do that, it goes in other areas. I don't. [01:09:38] Speaker C: Well, I hope you do it. I hope you give the opportunity to your. To your third party candidates or others to give them the clarity they need because you can only fix problems where clarity exists. [01:09:50] Speaker H: And I agree with you. 1. Before I go, Mr. Line the road. [01:09:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:09:54] Speaker H: The roads are, when I say deplorable and has been. [01:09:57] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We. We should. We should feel shame as a government that we cannot maintain our good roads. We should be shame. And every administration that doesn't do that should be shame. [01:10:15] Speaker H: Come on, man, give me one more. Our medical facility. [01:10:23] Speaker C: Okay, Got you, brother. Not ashamed. Not a point of quantity. [01:10:29] Speaker H: But there. There are. There are countless, many. But I can just leave those two. Maybe someone else is trying. [01:10:34] Speaker C: But there are also. There are also many things on which you and I can have pride too though. But we should acknowledge the two. See, when I tell people, when I describe my own problems, which I have, I do not leave out that I do. I do also have some virtues because I don't want nobody to describe. See, because if I. If I wrote a book about all my problems, you think I'm the worst person in the world. But if I give you the whole story of myself, you might say, oh, well, you have some problems. But he also has some good things too. So let's not leave that out. All right? Thank you. Appreciate you calling, man. Do you have another call on the line? No. Okay. Lots of text. This text is Mr. Lang, I also didn't vote in the last election. It was solely due to the pandemic that I'm voting. There are many who were incapable of voting. The election was held in the worst period, the Delta spike of the political suicide. On behalf of the then government to have called an election at that time, I will be voting in this election. And we will have our usual high turnout this time around. Well, thank you for that. Appreciate your sharing. That this says Selang. The seat has to be declared vacant, official or just vacant after Mr. Miller death. I'm not sure. It has to be declared officially vacant by the speaker. It says, Mr. Lang, mark my word and save my text. None of the COI candidates will get their deposit back. The two elephants in the room are the PLP and the fm. History has taught us that I have been around payments in large amounts. Will not vote for the coi, I believe. Well, the third parties have consistently gotten over the last several elections the same amount of votes. However you divided up CXCOI, DN, et cetera, it's been pretty much grand. McCartney, when he came into DNA, probably got the most that 14,000 or thereabouts. But who knows what will happen, you know, this time around it says, yes, lots of persons are expressing disillusionment with both major parties. They are drinking the Coi's Kool Aid about the $100,000 for each person and their narrative that both major parties are one and the same. Well, I don't know what lots of people mean because the COI, you probably have about 10 to 15,000 there who could support a third party. And you could consider that a lot. If you talk to 15,000, you talk to a thousand people. So, but what is that in the context of what it takes to win a general election? That's a different story. So I don't, I don't, I don't have the same alarm like that. Even though I acknowledge that there are, there are lots of people in terms of hundreds of people who you could say they are going to support a third party. That's not new. We know that from the elections says. Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. I have a question that I would like some clarification on, please. Based on our constitution as it relates to immigration, the question is if a person is born in the Bahamas by both parents who entered the Bahamas illegally is eligible to be a Bahamian citizen at their 18th birthday, given the fact that both of their parents broke a law of a sovereign country by entering the country legally and then having a child that is claiming citizenship by birth. I'm listening for your response. Well, first of all, all the stuff about the parents being illegal etc is irrelevant. What's relevant is what the Constitution provides. So really any problem you have, you have to have the Constitution. Constitution provides for those and the law provides for those children on turning 18 to be able to apply for citizenship. That's the law. Whatever their parents did in breaking the law, the law doesn't say if your parents came as the law says that even under those circumstances, children born to foreign parents, which an illegal person would be a foreign parent in that Circumstance on turning 18, your constitution, Solindad, Bindley, Arahan and all our founding fathers all put this in. The constitution says that is what they're eligible for. So if you have a problem, you have to take it up with your Constitution. Tell the Constitution I hate you. You're terrible. You're disgusting. I don't like that you did this. And if you want to change, go advocate for the change. That's what the Constitution says. That's what the constitution says. All right. We have a call on the line. Go ahead, call. We're listening to you. [01:14:56] Speaker G: Very good day again. How are you? Hello. [01:15:00] Speaker C: Good, good, good. I'm good. What's happening? [01:15:03] Speaker G: Yeah, you touch a button just now because that reason when they send it, right? That child should have been sent out the country with the two illegal parents the minute they were born. And they caught shipped them out the country and let them do whatever they got to do over in Haiti to put their paper forward to become a vehemence innocent when they reach over there to the embassy over there. [01:15:22] Speaker C: Why? Why? Why? Why should that have happened? [01:15:25] Speaker G: Because the two parents are illegal. So if they have a child, you can't tell you not to give the child in and ship the tournaments back to Haiti. [01:15:31] Speaker H: No, the child. [01:15:32] Speaker C: But that's. But, but that's. But if you don't ship the two parents back to Haiti and they could have been shipped there, and they could have been shipped there with the children, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day, the constitution still gives the child the right. [01:15:48] Speaker H: I agree with you. Like I said, let the child apply. [01:15:50] Speaker G: For citizenship to the. [01:15:51] Speaker C: No, no, no, but. No, but you're setting up. No, but you're. No, but you're setting up a scenario where if it happens, if it happens, if it don't happen, so what? [01:16:03] Speaker G: We really need to check out our constitution because right now, I guarantee this election here with the mono. [01:16:09] Speaker H: I'm more people. [01:16:11] Speaker C: You can't guarantee me nothing. You can't prove. You cannot guarantee me nothing. You can't prove. [01:16:15] Speaker H: Hear what I'm saying. [01:16:16] Speaker G: The amount of people I've seen with. [01:16:19] Speaker H: My passport and can't speak English, man, please. [01:16:21] Speaker C: You are one man. You ain't seen a. You ain't seen a thousand passports in. [01:16:25] Speaker H: The Bahamas in the last years. [01:16:28] Speaker G: All right, stay there then. [01:16:29] Speaker C: You know. All right. I know you have not. [01:16:32] Speaker G: All right, stay right there. [01:16:33] Speaker H: Like I said, prove me wrong. [01:16:36] Speaker C: Prove me wrong. You could do whatever you wish. I'm saying to you, prove me wrong. [01:16:50] Speaker H: Election coming. [01:16:51] Speaker G: You can still happen this election. [01:16:54] Speaker C: No, I can see what happened every election. What difference that make? You can't tell me that just because the election result is one thing versus the other thing, you think I'm gonna walk around saying, no, he was right. Come on, please. You're talking to me, buddy. You talking to me. I. I just try. I like reasoning. I like reasoning minds. I don't want your passion to be overriding your reading. [01:17:12] Speaker G: I said this election is going to be one of the best elections we ever had. [01:17:15] Speaker C: Or best in what way? [01:17:17] Speaker G: In many ways. It's going to set a record. This one. [01:17:20] Speaker C: Okay, bro. Thank you. [01:17:22] Speaker G: Mark my word. [01:17:23] Speaker H: Yes. [01:17:23] Speaker C: All right. I'm not. I. I'm not arguing with you on that. I don't know. You could be very right. So I. Arguing with you on that. We're gonna take a break. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to Z live on Schwaboline. Your host will be back after this break. [01:17:46] Speaker B: Take a stay, everybody. Everybody, come take my. Come take my. We'll Walk this road together through the storm, whatever weather, cold, the warm, Let me know that you're not alone. [01:18:19] Speaker A: This October, Bahama invites you to indulge your senses at the Culinary and Arts Festival where world class flavors meet breathtaking creativity in the heart of the Bahamas. 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More research means more breakthroughs, More advancements means more treatment options. And more options means more hope. [01:20:39] Speaker A: Learn [email protected] this is Guardian Radio 9600. Fresh news. Smart talk all day. [01:21:01] Speaker B: Everybody come take my, come take my we'll walk this road together through the storm Whatever weather, cover the wall. [01:21:20] Speaker C: Welcome back welcome back ladies and gentlemen to Z Live. I'm Chevalang, your host. I'm so glad you could join us here today on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon. If you want to give us a call, the numbers are 323-623-325-4316 on the island on 242-300-5720. You can text us on 422-4796 or you can WhatsApp me on 439-3043. Let me tell you something. The elections of your officials are as fundamental to the integrity of your governance as anything to be found. Everything rests on that. These officials appoint all of your other officials who are not elected. They hire all your civil servants, they manage your monies and all that kind of stuff. They enforce your legal system, your justice system. We cannot permit, just share unevidenced unsupported accusations of the corruption of that process. A reasonable suspicion. You can you have about something reasonable suspicion. But I could promise you you will never call Z Live. And I, Zhivago line, permit you to undermine the integrity of our electoral process which share opinionating. It will not happen. I will require you to be responsible in your communication of that fact. You could be doggone sure. And if you never called the show, too bad, too sad. And if you never listened to the show, too bad, too sad. I will never let you do that unless there is evidence to support that I should believe that my political electoral process is corrupt. I didn't say instances of corruption is corrupt. And even instances of corruption cannot be alleged here unless you are prepared to evidence what you say. If you say, and you call me, there probably are fraudulent passports people are using to vote. There are probably people who are using fraudulent means to vote. I'd say to you, of course that's possible, of course it's possible. But you ain't calling the show, talking to me, no stupidness about, oh, they got all kind of this and all that. You can't I telling you, call some other place, don't call this show. I don't have no time for that nonsense because when you, when that process is corrupted, everything else in this country having to do with governance is held in suspicion. And I'm not going to permit it as somebody seeking to be responsible in what we permit and allow. So I'm warning you, do not call this show. I will cut you off if I see you going in that direction. Don't text the show. I won't reach you if I see you going in that direction. That's a promise I'm making. If you have a call on the line, go ahead. Caller listening to you. [01:25:32] Speaker G: Good day, Zhivago. How you doing today? [01:25:35] Speaker C: Good, man, how are you? [01:25:36] Speaker G: No, I was calling to make a comment because I hear A lot of people calling in saying that a Bahamian that comes from another country and doesn't speak the language or didn't grow up in this country like I did. And I didn't grow up in the Bahamas, I was born in the Bahamas, but I didn't grow up here. When I came back I had an American accent and now people telling me that I'm American but I'm still Bahamian. So I, I would like, you know, you to shed some light on this, the stereotypical Bahamian that, that they believe that Bahamians could only speak broken dialect and that's that once upon a time that Greeks, we have Greek Bahamians, we have Chinese Bahamian, we have Jamaican Bahamian, we have, we have so much different type of. [01:26:18] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:26:19] Speaker G: And all of us speak the same way. [01:26:23] Speaker C: Absolutely, absolutely. A great point actually. And I was going to make that point when I was talking to the person who, because this notion that can't speak no liquor English right now I, I think it would be very suspect that a person could get a, get citizenship and not have some ability to speak English. But that doesn't mean they won't have a heavy accent and may not be able to speak great English. I mean Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor of California and honest watching still got a heavy accent out this world. He's an American citizen. Right? I know, I know, I know Bahamian people who are Bamian citizenship just as you said, who are Italians, who are Chinese, who are Haitian watch of Jamaican descent and other African countries and their accents are heavy, heavy, heavy and their comfort is with their own native language. So I don't buy this nonsense talk that about well, you can't speak no English or you know English, you got this heavy accent. I don't buy that because we have some Bahamians whose dialect, if you listen to them, would you wonder if they speak in English? I, when I was speaking my dialect in Canada, my Thomas, he said, I said, yes we do. He said, but what I heard you talking to, talking with your mommy ain't no English. So. So a Bahamian is a person who has acquired citizenship by virtue of the law. That's who a Bahamian is by virtue of the law. Eating Kong salad don't make, you know, Bahamian. Eating peas and rice and crab and rice don't make, you know, Bahamian loving Junkanoo don't make you no Bahamian. Being religious don't make you no Bahamian. A Bahamian citizen is a person who has acquired citizenship by way of the law either through the constitution or some nationality act of the Bahamas that is Obama is and it doesn't say you have to be no particular color, shape, weight, accent or anything. It doesn't say anything like that in any of our laws. It does prescribe for people who are coming to acquire citizenship that you need to know the symbols of the country. You need to have the ability to speak some English and so forth and so forth. But this ignorance that is spread on these shows and on and too oftentimes is terrible. Okay, you are a citizen having so acquired same by virtue of the law talent is acquired or you're paper baming you a paper bayman too. Every bam in the mom is a paper bam and you say are you but you only obey me because the constitution says so in your Constitution is a is a paper document is a paper document and that's the only reason why you're being and you obey because the constitution say so or the nationality access so that's the only way what was the Constitution it is a paper document prescribing the founding foundational laws of the Bahamas and rights and privileges. Huh? I was born in 1967 when I was born in 1967 I was a British subject because the Bahamas was a colony of Great Britain in 1967 with internal self governance not external self governance was not an independent country. So I was not born a Bahamian citizen. I was made a Bahamian citizen by the an act of Lord Constitution by a piece of paper. That's how I became a Bahamian citizen. I wouldn't even talk about my mom and my daddy or my Grammy, my granddaddy. Listening to Z Live, I'm Shiva Lang. We're going to take our final break. We'll be back after this final break. [01:30:24] Speaker B: I'm not afraid to take a stand Take a stand Everybody. Everybody come take my come take my we'll walk this road together through the dark over the wall Let me know that you're not alone. [01:30:53] Speaker F: Southwest Plaza has so many stores. I've been trying to find a sensible way to list them all. There's cbs Bahamas, the Asheye Institute, Benc Snack World, Bamboo Shack, Bahamas. 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[01:32:52] Speaker D: Join us on Friday, October 17th from 7am to 10am and let's turn every dollar into hope. [01:32:59] Speaker A: That's the Sister Sister Breast Cancer Dollar Day proudly sponsored by the Guardian Media Group, Star 106.5 and Guardian Radio 96.9. This is Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Fresh news smart talk all day. [01:33:39] Speaker G: That. [01:34:10] Speaker B: I'm not afraid to take a step. [01:34:14] Speaker C: Hello. All right, welcome back. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, Z Live. So glad you could join us. If you are if you are someone who believes that the people in power manipulate citizenship grants, the grant of passports and other things to be able to get voters to vote for them. If you believe that and you believe that they do it in such large numbers that it that the people who get those passports or that citizenship are so robotic, so robotic that they will vote for the people who gave them that. If you believe that and the FNM and the PLP have been the only governing parties in the Commonwealth of the 1973 we had independence. If you believe that they've been granting all these citizenship and these passports and the people who get are so robotic that they will go and only vote for those parties. You tell me how it is possible for any person to tell Me that a third party has a chance of winning an election in Obama's and most many times the people who are saying that are people who are third party supporters. You are arguing against your own self to believe that because there's not a possible chance in God's earth that all them fraudulent tripping citizenship and power and passports granted to allow people to vote for people who can robotically vote for people who gave them the passport and the citizenship are going to vote anything other than fnmplb. So why are you wasting your time? What you campaigning for? Who you hoping gonna switch? Who's that? You then tell people the. The. The more Haitians and them with passport and them what you. What you working for? It don't make no sense. All them bunch of immigration officers who are Bailey's. All them bunch of people in the Bayments who live in the registrar general office. All them corrupt. All they then is gain out in a passport and citizenship. All these corrupt cabinet ministers. [01:36:35] Speaker G: Well. [01:36:36] Speaker C: Well what will give up rope because only can be FM and prp, F and M and brb. Why? Because they're the ones who giving. They're the ones who've been giving them out all this time and the people can robotically vote for them. Just because you were Haitian of Haitian descent, just because you have Jamaican descent, just because you're the American descent but Canadian descent or whatever you're not being a citizen or you only going to robotically vote for who give you citizenship. That's how I can do a child. I ain't do nothing else. These people. These people don't have no sense. They don't have no ethics, they don't have no decency, they have no heart. They nothing. They're nothing. They're not nothing but robotic F M PLP voters. That's the argument. That's the, that's the doggone argument you know making to me when election don't go your way. That's all the nations I tell you I don't buy that nonsense. It flies in the face of reasoning, has no evidence to back it. Just share nonsense talk with people who listening to nonsense all day long and drumming up their passions as they do so unwilling to do the work to support what they say. People who, who tell me oh you ain't gonna scare me. Drumming up fair to get what they want. Drumming up fair trying to use fair. Nobody who no one who tries to make you fair for respects your freedom. Does the Bible say fear is bondage? No one who tries to make you fearful respects your Freedom. They want you in bondage. I don't care where you are in the world. If you are a leader who believes in fear mongering, you are an enslaver. That's what you are. You are in slaver. You believe in saving enslaving people. Fair produces slavery. Courage. Truth produces freedom. So what's going to happen? I don't know. Prime minister told his people to stay tuned, get ready, be alert. One way or the other we can have a general election and then people will be able to decide they wish to do. What a wonderful freedom. I thought about that the other day, man. I thought about that the other day and I said to myself, man, what a freedom. Oh my gosh, what a freedom. I so can I tell you guys something? So I walked in a store in the US in a predominantly white area, to be honest with you. There was a pharmacy and attendant who was in there. He was the only person there I saw working. And in fact the only two people in the store at the time was he and myself. And he was not particularly friendly at all. He was a white person, probably in his 30s maybe. He was not particularly friendly at all. I greeted him as we typically do in the Bahamas. No response per se. When I approached the thing, I greeted him again. No particular response. And then I purchased my supply and I went, I left, I went somewhere else. A white person, Lady Elder Moore, an elderly person, exceptionally friendly, exceptionally friendly really, you know, spending. And I thought to myself, for one instance, I said to myself, Chicago. Do you know there was a time when a black person not do this so easily and so readily. And I said well you we really are standing on the way work of people who gave much for the freedoms we have. I just, I just appreciated it for a moment. Just for a moment I appreciated it and recognized how freely we move about. And even if people may still feel the same way as they felt about you, the environment is such that they have to accommodate you differently than before. This is the beauty of democracy and freedom. And so whatever happens in an election, man, I say I don't. I'm getting excited. No. FM win fine. PLP win fine. PNA win fine. COI went fine. Might not be my preference, any one of those things, but I'm fine with is freedom's way that choice should be landed in its results. Just freedom's way and I shall hate you none Love you all the same no matter your choice. The marriage. You've been listening to Z live and Chicago Line your host. So glad you could join us today. God's best life. We'll be back again tomorrow. Don't forget. October 14th. New slot, new time. Have a great evening.