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The budget debate started yesterday. Interesting developments, interesting things I thought happening in the debate. There is no this house sitting today unless they sit this afternoon. Because normally what would happen is during the budget debate the House would break on Tuesdays for cabinet. The cabinet would meet resume on Wednesday. It wasn't on on occasions when Ingram want he might have cabinet in the morning and then have house in the Tuesday afternoon. That was rare but it did in fact happen.
But some interesting things emerging out of the budget debate.
[00:02:35] Speaker D: Curiously, curiously the Prime Minister has clearly
[00:02:43] Speaker C: heard calls for Minister Finance to resign for days now.
[00:02:52] Speaker D: I mean it might almost be about two weeks now.
[00:02:55] Speaker C: He's clearly heard those calls, right?
[00:02:58] Speaker D: The Minister of Foreign affairs heard them
[00:03:01] Speaker C: and he commented on the chairman of the plp.
[00:03:03] Speaker D: So so clearly he would have had that would have been known to the Prime Minister.
[00:03:10] Speaker E: But.
[00:03:11] Speaker D: But the houses met
[00:03:15] Speaker C: they the Prime
[00:03:17] Speaker D: Minister prior to the House meeting. The Prime Minister took no occasion to
[00:03:22] Speaker C: speak to the matter. None whatsoever.
[00:03:24] Speaker D: Like no definitive listen word about nothing, nothing up from the Prime Minister on his on calls for his Minister of Finance to resign. Nothing. Not a word.
Then the House meets yesterday.
Even at a meeting of the House, the Prime Minister takes no occasion, even by way of communication, to say anything in the way of his Minister of Finances being asked to resign. Nothing.
In fact, as the news reports, wasn't until he decided to respond to comments made by the Shadow Minister of Finance, I believe, Kwesi Thompson of the Free National Movement MP for East Grand Bahama, that he then decided to say something.
The situation involving his Minister of Finance being asked to resign. It was a reaction. It was not a planned something, it was not a prepared something. It was simply a reaction to comments made by Kwesi Thompson.
Interestingly enough, and I point this out only to make sure Prime Minister could in the future perhaps correct it if the Prime Minister is correctly reported and quoted in the this article in the
[00:05:02] Speaker C: newspaper by Travis Cartwright Carroll.
[00:05:06] Speaker D: This is what the Prime Minister said.
He says, first of all, the member
[00:05:17] Speaker C: breached that clause talking about Kwesi Thompson
[00:05:20] Speaker D: by bringing into the debate matters that malign or otherwise tarnish the character the conduct of the Minister of Finance.
The point by me to my cabinet as such Minister.
[00:05:35] Speaker C: This is what Prime Minister said and being quoted in this news article, he
[00:05:40] Speaker D: then went on to say, and I quote, I dare say that as to him that this matter arisen, I am satisfied whether any of the other side may be or otherwise, I am satisfied as the person whose Cabinet he said that. Listen to, listen to the quote, that there's nothing neither immoral, unethical or otherwise illegal about the conduct of which they complain,
[00:06:14] Speaker C: end quote.
[00:06:17] Speaker D: I am satisfied that there's nothing neither.
Nothing neither is a double negative which makes it possible, positive, and therefore should read that there's something immoral, unethical about the conduct of which they complain.
That's the grammar of it. The grammar of it is a double negative. Nothing neither is a positive meaning something is right. And I'm sure that's not what the Prime Minister wanted to say, but this is what happens when you don't have a prepared text about something as important as this.
Someone could take liberties with it and say, oh, but you know, he in fact said that there was something unethical, something immoral or something illegal about what the Minister did. And we know that's not what the Prime Minister intended to say.
But I really find it interesting that the Prime Minister, being as definitive as he is in this statement, however errant in his grammar about it, couldn't find it possible to say that before, now couldn't Find it to say before reacting to something said by someone else.
I mean, I mean, these are caused by the official opposition of the Bahamas for the resignation of the Finance Minister.
[00:07:41] Speaker C: He didn't feel the need to respond.
[00:07:44] Speaker D: He says this is a matter of controversy that was created by them to which they want a response from US Prime Minister.
[00:07:52] Speaker C: Really?
[00:07:53] Speaker D: Seriously, that, that you think that the controversy surrounding the Minister of Finance was created by the Free National Movement?
Really?
Is that what you really think happened?
Asking you. Listen, I'm asking you who are listening to this show today, because I could be wrong.
[00:08:16] Speaker C: I could have it wrong. My perspective could be wrong.
[00:08:20] Speaker D: Do you really believe that it was the Free National Movement that created the controversy regarding the Minister of Finance?
Was it the Free National Movement that flew the airplane that crashed on election day, that had Mr. Gardner convicted of narcotics dealings and money laundering in the past and now alleged to have been doing similar things?
Was it the Free National Movement that packed a bag with $30,000 on it and put it on the person of Mr. Gardner and then put a politician's name on it?
Was it the Free National Movement that decided not to name King Smith as a Parliamentary secretary after he was clearly determined, decided to be so because his name was associated with that child of Light? Was it the Free National Movement that indicted, arrested Mr. Gardner?
It was the free national movement that gave Mr. Gardner a contract with the bill of clinic for $42 million in the name of what's the Touch Something Touch company that Mr. Gardner is associated with.
And it was the Free National Movement that wrote up the documents that included Mr. Halkitis as a director and at some point the president of the company of which Mr. Gardner was president and a director?
Was it the Free National Movement that confirmed, after the documents started circulating, Was it a Free national movement that made Mr. Alkitas confirm his association with that company?
Was it the Free National Movement that discovered in the court case of Adrian Gibson, a Free national, former member of Parliament, fought for corruption, that a contract was given to Mr. Gardner's company, which Mr. Gardner signed at the same time that Mr. Akitis was president and the Free National Movement created controversy?
Am I missing something?
The Prime Minister says this is a matter of controversy that was created by them to which they want a response from us. Created by them.
Was the Free National Movement responsible for sending a lawyer, Mr. Gardner's circumstances to Mr. Halkidis?
Listen, man, come on. At some point, at some point we have to treat the Bahamian public like we are intelligent, open eyed thinking people who, observing the developments in our nation.
At some point we have to do that.
Prime Minister says, I just want in this parliament that the matter be put to the privilege committee in the context that if the member is found wanting that he be dealt with under the rules of the House.
Y' all want me explain that to you?
[00:12:07] Speaker C: But before we get to that, is
[00:12:10] Speaker D: it true, is it really true that the Free National Movement created this controversy? If you're a member of the press, I can call your name. You text me and tell me, yeah, the Free National Movement created this.
If you remember the public and miss
[00:12:23] Speaker C: it, well, I shouldn't say that because they are members, because I know how things go in this world.
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[00:14:42] Speaker B: Not alone.
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[00:15:09] Speaker D: It is incredible.
[00:15:12] Speaker C: I find the Prime Minister's statement that the FM causes controversy fantastical.
Seriously, I mean, think about that for a moment.
So in other words, what the Prime Minister is saying is.
[00:15:30] Speaker D: This is what he's saying, if something comes into the public sphere, if an event happens and that thing surrounding that event happened to be observed by and then commented on and then pursued in terms of the opposition, created the controversy of it.
[00:15:52] Speaker C: Well, I might dare say that Prime
[00:15:54] Speaker D: Minister Davis, when he was leader of the opposition and all of his successors
[00:15:58] Speaker C: created plenty controversies in the Commonwealth of the Bahamas. You could date them back to the
[00:16:02] Speaker D: time when the Eastern boys were around in the Bahamas, the Eastern wroters, because all the controversy surrounding
[00:16:14] Speaker C: their
[00:16:16] Speaker D: bigotry or discrimination that was raised by the opposition, raised by opposition parties, whether it was the controversy surrounding the Bahamas being for sale or anything in relation to any happened under Ingram's administration or Christie's administration, though any opposition raising those issues actually created a controversy.
I don't, I don't see that, don't get it. I don't understand it and I don't.
[00:16:47] Speaker C: I'm not entirely sure why a prime minister would say such a thing. I really, I do not.
[00:16:53] Speaker D: Unless, of course, we have call on the line. Go ahead, caller.
[00:16:58] Speaker C: We're listening to you.
[00:17:00] Speaker I: A blessing. Good afternoon. How you doing, Mike?
[00:17:03] Speaker C: Hey, I'm right here, man. What's going on?
[00:17:05] Speaker D: I'm doing fine.
Have you and I spoken since election?
[00:17:09] Speaker J: Yes, we are maybe one.
[00:17:11] Speaker D: Say maybe once. Maybe once.
[00:17:13] Speaker J: More than once.
[00:17:14] Speaker D: More than once. Okay.
[00:17:15] Speaker K: Yeah, we spoke.
[00:17:16] Speaker J: What it was.
I know you haven't gotten deeply into
[00:17:21] Speaker I: your conversation today, but I just wanted to add something before you go too much further into the conversation.
[00:17:28] Speaker J: Right.
[00:17:28] Speaker I: Something that you spoke about a few moments back with regards to the double negative.
[00:17:33] Speaker J: Right.
[00:17:34] Speaker I: I just wanted to state that there's the mathematical rule and there's the grammar rule. Right. In English grammar, double negatives do not always cancel out. In fact, they can have entirely different meanings depending on what is being emphasized. The math logic. In mathematics, two negatives cancel out each other. To make it positive is correct, but it doesn't necessarily add up in English or in grammar. Let me, let me make just one point. Negative concord, emphatic negative, including African American vernacular English and many regional varieties of British and American English. And I'm ending right here with this statement. Using two negative words in a single clause does not make a positive. Instead, the second negative serves as emphasis to make the negative statement even stronger.
[00:18:22] Speaker D: And I think that's when, when, when
[00:18:24] Speaker C: the, when the context calls for it. When the context calls for it.
[00:18:28] Speaker J: Yes.
[00:18:31] Speaker C: I'm not going to spend any time
[00:18:33] Speaker D: on this because I indicated to you I do not believe that that's what the prime minister intended to do. I do not believe that. I already said that. Okay, but you cannot tell me that the prime minister with intentionality, put them two negative words together.
[00:18:47] Speaker J: Yes, that's why I read what I just read. Simply because.
[00:18:51] Speaker D: No, no, you read what you. No, you read what you read. But you. But listen, I have a view of It.
The Prime Minister would have to come and tell me. Yeah, of course I intended to structure
[00:19:01] Speaker C: my language that way.
[00:19:03] Speaker D: And it's still no, make the reading. And it still doesn't make the reading sound any better. It does not.
[00:19:10] Speaker I: He was actually empathizing.
[00:19:11] Speaker D: Yeah, but when you're trying to. Yeah, but when you. When you're trying to be clear with
[00:19:15] Speaker C: people, man, with the greatest respect, when
[00:19:17] Speaker D: you're trying to be clear people, your emphasis should be this man did not. Wrong.
[00:19:22] Speaker J: I understand.
[00:19:24] Speaker I: You know,
[00:19:29] Speaker D: The fundamental point I made was this was not a prepared text
[00:19:32] Speaker C: on a matter of serious as it is.
It was not.
[00:19:37] Speaker J: You know what, normally I would agree
[00:19:38] Speaker I: with your position, but based upon what the Prime Minister expressed and based upon my knowledge of what is, what is, what is the thinking, even behind the scenes, I would agree that. I would disagree that the Prime Minister stated exactly as he wanted to state, using the double negative, using the second
[00:19:56] Speaker J: negative to help this point.
[00:19:59] Speaker C: No problem. No, no problem. No problem.
[00:20:01] Speaker D: What's your next point?
[00:20:02] Speaker C: No problem.
[00:20:04] Speaker I: And I happen to agree with him entirely. Amam Zhibago.
[00:20:07] Speaker J: I believe that.
[00:20:08] Speaker I: I believe that there isn't any fact to support any of the claims, any of the claims that the opposition is making. The honorable Michael Akitis.
[00:20:19] Speaker J: I believe that they're using a quote from the.
[00:20:23] Speaker I: From a. From a tabloid. A respective tabloid.
[00:20:26] Speaker J: Yep.
[00:20:27] Speaker I: Right. And they're using that as the basis to formulate whatever position they are seeking to put forward.
[00:20:33] Speaker J: And that's as far as the time.
[00:20:36] Speaker C: Anton. Anton. First of all, the FNF stated as fact. They said. They said he made a poor judgment. That's what they said. That's what their belief is. Why did I say that?
[00:20:47] Speaker I: That's heavily.
[00:20:48] Speaker C: No, no, no, no.
[00:20:49] Speaker D: Listen to me.
[00:20:50] Speaker C: Why do they say that?
[00:20:51] Speaker D: Because they think he ought to have known.
[00:20:54] Speaker C: They're not the only ones, by the way. I can tell you.
[00:20:56] Speaker D: I've been having this conversation all over the place.
They're not the only ones who believe he ought to have known with whom he was associating himself.
And they believed that that judgment was germane enough to cause a problem.
[00:21:12] Speaker C: And I used the same thing. And I said, when Prime Minister Davis,
[00:21:17] Speaker D: then Leader of the Opposition, called for Peter Turnquest to resign, what was the basis on which he called for his resignation?
[00:21:24] Speaker J: Because.
[00:21:25] Speaker D: Was it illegal? Was it illegal? Was it illegality? Was it illegality?
[00:21:30] Speaker J: Here's the key difference in both circumstances.
[00:21:32] Speaker I: Chicago. Peter Turnquest himself acknowledged that there was some challenges in his situation.
[00:21:40] Speaker J: Although he stated clearly. Although he said it clearly.
[00:21:42] Speaker C: Stop.
[00:21:43] Speaker D: Although I will not let you do that. Will not let you do that.
Nonsense.
Okay, Nonsense.
I asked you a question. That Peter do anything illegal?
Did he do anything immoral?
Did he do anything unethical? Saving that he was named in a lawsuit and the prime minister called for his resignation.
You all have to stop this man.
Stop calling these talk shows FNMPLP or coi trying to defend things in manner, in a manner that does not represent good sound logic or reasoning. You can put water on Peter turn quest as a nonsense.
Don't do that.
I would not get on the show and say Michael Alquidas did this, that,
[00:22:40] Speaker C: that, and the next thing, when I
[00:22:42] Speaker D: knew it not to be so, I would not make up any such thing.
I said, has he done anything illegal?
[00:22:49] Speaker C: I couldn't find anything, no evidence of it. Did he do anything unethical? I said I couldn't find anything of any such nature.
[00:22:57] Speaker D: I said, was it a matter of judgment? I said there's a reasonable case that
[00:23:01] Speaker C: could be made for that.
[00:23:05] Speaker D: But don't try and invoke no Peter Turnkrass in this talking about he himself admitted that's nonsense talk and in fact it's an outright lie.
And if you want, I can get him on here to dispute the lie.
Utter nonsense.
What man having a matter go before the courts against him can stand up in the public and tell you, oh, yeah, yeah, well, that's all was true.
[00:23:27] Speaker C: That was true. That was true.
Challenges.
Well, you don't think Mr. Alquid has acknowledged there was challenges too?
[00:23:35] Speaker D: He would acknowledge that with, with respect
[00:23:39] Speaker C: to aircraft, why you think everybody now racing? Oh, I, I didn't. I, I resigned the company then. I wasn't on the board with him then.
[00:23:48] Speaker D: So why deny it if it's not a problem?
Come on, man, you got to stop.
Stop.
[00:23:55] Speaker C: The issue here is that prime minister says the F M generated this controversy.
[00:24:01] Speaker D: Seriously?
[00:24:02] Speaker C: When?
[00:24:02] Speaker B: Where?
[00:24:03] Speaker C: How?
[00:24:05] Speaker D: Secondly, I said the prime minister isn't
[00:24:09] Speaker C: trying to say his minister is.
Has done something illegal or immoral.
[00:24:15] Speaker D: I know he's not trying to say that. Don't try and tell me that I
[00:24:19] Speaker C: must construe words put together to mean a thing that don't sound like it means the thing to me.
Come on, man,
[00:24:30] Speaker D: this is, this is, this is crazy.
[00:24:36] Speaker C: This talk says Anton so happy you shut him down.
[00:24:39] Speaker D: Pure nonsense. Nonsense, nonsense, said Mr. Lang.
[00:24:44] Speaker C: Sometimes you have to run people like Anton. You said the PM words was not in your opinion what he wanted to say. I'm sick of hearing Anton.
He called his poison say clap, clap Clap don't allow outright lies. I ain't doing that, not on this show. So, Mr. Lang say, watch your blood, man. Listen to me. My blood pressure good. Don't mind me. I get passionate. My blood pressure good.
[00:25:06] Speaker D: If you have a call on the line, go ahead, call. We're listening to you.
[00:25:11] Speaker C: Go ahead, caller, we listen to you.
No, okay.
This text says, top notch, the company. 42 million for clinic.
Your response is spot. Yes, Please explain be dealt with under the rules of the House.
[00:25:31] Speaker D: So the Committee on Privilege is where you send a matter to die.
When you want to shut up the members of the House, the opposition dealing with a matter in terms of debate and what have you, you send it
[00:25:48] Speaker C: to the Committee on Privilege.
[00:25:49] Speaker D: Committee will take its time, meet when it meets, maybe over the next year, two years or so, and they will report at some point perhaps.
But the truth of the matter is that's where you send the matter when you, you know, you're tired of hearing
[00:26:01] Speaker C: about it, you don't want nobody commenting on it no more in the House
[00:26:03] Speaker D: of Assembly, so you send it there to die. That's what it is. Yes, members privilege could be breached.
[00:26:10] Speaker C: But I can tell you one thing now, what happens is sometimes these matters could be dealt with quickly because then that's the way the government, because the government is the majority on the Committee of Privilege.
And so when the government want like, you know, come back with a strong statement that says, yeah, the committee elected the mod and everything was okay, let's cut this down.
[00:26:28] Speaker D: The committee. The committee now.
So the committee is now examining the words of Crazy Thompson. You know, the committee is not examining the association of Mr. Hakitas with Mr.
[00:26:45] Speaker C: Gardiner or whether or not Mr.
Timelines were correct according to the documentation.
[00:26:53] Speaker D: But he will not look at those, those matters if, if, if Crazy Thompson and saying some things about Mr. Alquidas,
[00:27:02] Speaker C: which I do not know what he
[00:27:03] Speaker D: said, in fact violated the, the House rules about bringing members into disrepute and
[00:27:10] Speaker C: all that kind of stuff.
[00:27:12] Speaker D: That's what it's about. That's what, that's what the Committee is
[00:27:15] Speaker C: going to look at.
[00:27:18] Speaker D: So
[00:27:21] Speaker C: when we come back from the
[00:27:22] Speaker D: break, I'm going to talk about how
[00:27:25] Speaker C: maybe this is something that might have been considered when Darren Pickstock made some of the comments he made.
But we can deal with that when we come back from the break. You're listening to Z Live. I'm Shavar Relying, your host.
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[00:31:16] Speaker D: But skirting around all kind of things
[00:31:20] Speaker C: on the budget debate, I saw yesterday, I saw the member Parliament for West, for Bimini. Is it now Bimini. Mr. Mitt, he was giving his speech.
[00:31:35] Speaker D: Reading, reading, reading straight through from a text prepared.
[00:31:42] Speaker C: They clearly interested in having no debate. And I was assembly demonstrating the level of comfort, comfortability with the matters with which they have response for which they have responsibility because we can get a bunch of speech reading. It seems in the House of Assembly the prime minister sends the matter involving comments he indicated that Kwesi Thompson made. I'm going to get the comments. I don't, I haven't seen them. I'm gonna get comments to a committee on privilege which will silence any reference to the market committee reports.
Stay tuned for that report here.
From my own experience, the House stay tuned.
See how long it takes you to get that report.
Secondly, the prime minister sense that matter because he thinks that the member's character has been impugned and that may well be true. I don't know. I don't, I don't know the. I don't. I didn't get the comments but I will.
But Darren Pick member parliament for Golden
[00:32:57] Speaker D: Isles gets up in the House of
[00:33:00] Speaker C: Assembly and responding to some things that Mr. Thompson said,
[00:33:12] Speaker D: he, he makes the
[00:33:14] Speaker C: comment
[00:33:16] Speaker D: that who the cap fit?
[00:33:20] Speaker C: The head knock.
[00:33:24] Speaker D: Okay.
Who the cap fit?
[00:33:29] Speaker C: Let them get their heads knock, knock off.
[00:33:34] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: You just came out of a violent weekend.
[00:33:39] Speaker N: You're listening to the Guardian News Network.
[00:33:43] Speaker C: We are really concerned about levels of violence in our country.
[00:33:51] Speaker D: Now in the House of assembly only 41 members.
And so if you are speaking in the House of Assembly and you make a reference like who the cap fit, let them get their head knock off. Now first of all, I have to assume you aren't talking about outside the House of Assembly because you as a member of Parliament representing people not going to be saying something that at the end of the day, if the cat fit, there is a violent end to you because if you get your head knock off, you get decapitated. Decapitation will lead to death.
Okay?
And don't nobody text me. Oh, he was only being metaphorical or cute or.
[00:34:40] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[00:34:42] Speaker D: You're a Member of Parliament, you're supposed to be careful what you say. So I'm assuming any member of Parliament is going to get up in the House of Assembly, make a reference which says, well, if it fit to you, let get your head lick off.
And I have to assume you're referring to members in the House and so you're saying the things that I have said.
This is what, this is what see,
[00:35:08] Speaker C: any intelligent human being will agree that
[00:35:12] Speaker D: this is the case.
You're saying because this is what who the cap fit, let them wear it means.
And you'll notice that saying is not a violent saying. It is. It does not to a violent end. It says who the cap fit, let them wear. Meaning if what I say applies to you, then let it apply to you. But you're not going to get yourself decapitated by virtue of the application of what I'm saying.
So I'm assuming then it has to be a reference to someone in the chamber.
I don't believe a member Parliament for the party is going to refer to a matter against to say, well, if the cap fit you then let your head get knocked off.
I can't believe any sense, intelligent, well meaning member Parliament would have that to say about his own members.
No logic, no reasoning a conclusion.
So I then have to believe saying the comments that I am making which you are taking offense with, even though I don't call any of your names, I really mean any of you on the F and M side of life.
If my comments fit you, I don't want you to just wear the cap. I know now listening to that kind of language would feel what kind of way that that's honorable language, honorable references that like you didn't just forget, impugn
[00:36:56] Speaker C: a member's character, but wish ill and harm upon a member
[00:37:05] Speaker D: in a society where people find it troubling that such
[00:37:14] Speaker C: violence could befall their citizenship, their citizenry.
And that's fine, that's okay.
[00:37:21] Speaker D: That shouldn't go to no committee. That shouldn't be a matter of ruling. Now, Dr. Rollins tried to get the speaker to see this and I must confess that initially in my thoughts I said, well, you know, he was. And he didn't say he didn't make any reference to any specific person. But that's even worse because now he applied the violent reference to every on the fnm side of life by implication.
And, and at the very least they speak of wanting order and decorum in the House of his Men assembly might
[00:37:54] Speaker C: say, no, no member.
[00:37:55] Speaker D: No member. No member at least applied or apply the quote as it is in its
[00:38:01] Speaker C: original form by saying who to cap fit, let them wear it. Member, could you, could you amend it to do that?
But. No, no.
[00:38:11] Speaker D: But.
[00:38:12] Speaker C: In a matter related to concerns that people have around the association of the Minister of Finance with a person,
[00:38:21] Speaker D: the
[00:38:22] Speaker C: members of the opposition are expected to
[00:38:23] Speaker D: be cute,
[00:38:26] Speaker C: to exercise good judgment and to not speak in ways that impugn somebody's character. And that is correct.
[00:38:34] Speaker D: They should not. No member should not on the PLP
[00:38:37] Speaker C: side, not on the FM side, but
[00:38:39] Speaker D: it's okay for a government minister to use references that have violent implications.
[00:38:54] Speaker C: Did a speaker say. She didn't hear him say that, though I think she eventually expunged it. Or she did expunge it.
Oh, really? Okay, but I might have missed that. But wait one.
[00:39:03] Speaker D: If the speaker expunged that, then I am absolutely. Then you see that I am correct
[00:39:09] Speaker C: in what I'm saying. And kudos to you, Madam speaker, if that is so.
[00:39:14] Speaker D: Kudos to you. Kudos to you.
[00:39:16] Speaker C: Wonderful, excellent, excellent, excellent. Because that's inappropriate.
But the fact of the matter is
[00:39:23] Speaker D: that the member was prepared to leap there to begin with. What would make him think that I was? Okay, what would make him think that?
And I can tell you, I, I know, Mrs. Pixar, that's. That to me that seems like out of character.
Right.
[00:39:40] Speaker C: But you know, when you get in
[00:39:41] Speaker D: that place,
[00:39:46] Speaker C: Sometimes you, you lose your way. We have a call on the line.
[00:39:49] Speaker D: Go ahead, caller. We're listening to you.
[00:39:51] Speaker O: Hey, Mr. Lang. What's up, man?
[00:39:53] Speaker C: Hey, right there, man. What's going on?
[00:39:55] Speaker O: I, I think you kind of jumped the gun on what I really wanted to talk about. You know, I think Mr. Pistock was speaking directly to, to Andre Rollins when he made that statement about who the cow fit because Andre was going to water to address that issue.
So when he said that, I, I think he was speaking specifically to Andre Rollins and, and, and, and I know in reference to the, to the statement he made.
So, you know, and, and, and, and, and I know this just reminds me of the, the speaker that she didn't change and she's bringing the same old 30 games back in the old assembly that, and this is kind of, this is really disappointing, really disappointing. You know, I think most people need to understand that we operate under the Westminster system, which is a system of honor.
And I didn't see no honor on behalf of the statement that Mr. Pickstock made. And I didn't see the honor and the speakers definitely there's no honor in Michael Akita's actions
[00:41:01] Speaker I: or whether he don't know.
[00:41:02] Speaker O: But the matter fact is he know it now and it's a distraction not just for the. For the. For the. For the.
[00:41:08] Speaker I: For the.
[00:41:08] Speaker O: For the House of Assembly, but for the country.
[00:41:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
My understanding is that Rollins did not get up before Pickstock said what he said.
Right.
But in any event I'm happy to learn because I, you know, I have to get, I just have to get on the show. So I mean not the session, but I'm happy to learn that the matter was expunged, I hope and that is so. But that's what I reliably, I'm informed this text says you all are the most petty, bitter people in the world. Please get over it. The PLP has won. Any intelligent person knows he's not meant to say literally their head slap off. He only clowning him hung miss Butler hear his head tear his head off. Okay, so now we are the most petty, bitter people. Let me tell you something. You are the silliest, stupidest ignorant person to believe that. And I'm telling you that. And I know to whom I'm speaking.
Okay? This has nothing to do with petty or what have you, my brother. You've been ignorant, absolutely ignorant. The Progressive Liberal Party is won. The government Chevalang has no problem. No problem. That's a bad comment on anything I comment on. And for you to have the dialogue with me that you have to meet with time from time to time to say such a stupid thing is offensive.
It is offensive.
[00:42:39] Speaker D: There's nothing to get over, bro.
[00:42:40] Speaker C: There's no, no more than how you. When you.
[00:42:43] Speaker D: When the PLP loses, you have your
[00:42:46] Speaker C: own issues with it, right?
[00:42:49] Speaker D: So, so, so, so stop talking nonsense, man.
[00:42:52] Speaker C: Right.
[00:42:52] Speaker D: Especially when people talk in sense.
[00:42:54] Speaker C: This is how you bring down the level of dialogue and debate.
[00:42:57] Speaker D: Because you demonstrate that your partisanship is more important than human dignity, human decency, national interest and the like. That's what you demonstrate the countries
[00:43:10] Speaker C: caliber of existence.
By your thinking, that's what you do.
This text says you give too much credit to the members of the plp. Once someone joins that group, their DNA gets infected.
I know lots of PLPs who are wonderful human beings who will not say such things or say certain things, etc. I do not believe that wonderful human beings. I know many of them and in the House of Assembly right now, I know I could call their names. I know them to be great, decent Bahamian people. So I'm not subscribing to this being a PLP DNA or F M DNA or anything of that nature. I'm putting your own behavior on your own doggone head.
This text has got to be area of blind political loyalty. Who are convinced and live by such convictions that their party, no its leaders can do no wrong. People actually have that kind of faith in mere human beings. These people seem ready to put their heads on the chopping block for another person. Feel free to support, even be going home gung ho for your political party. But if they are wrong, either admit it or say nothing. Yeah, understood. We have another call on the line.
[00:44:33] Speaker D: Go ahead, Call if you're listening.
[00:44:35] Speaker K: Hey, good afternoon, Mr. Lang.
[00:44:36] Speaker J: How you doing?
[00:44:39] Speaker K: How you doing, sir?
[00:44:41] Speaker C: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Good to hear from you. What's up?
[00:44:43] Speaker K: Hey, Rachel, man. Yeah, it seems to be a double standard to me when it comes to the words that are being said on social media platforms or just in general.
If you speak to an issue and Fox and you're speaking truth, there seems to be from the government side individuals who will use social platform or whatever form of medium is available to just say the most reckless and hurtful things. God. For how it affects or offends people.
[00:45:30] Speaker C: Hold on, hold on. Can I say this to you, sir, just before you go, man.
[00:45:33] Speaker D: Things can only hurt you or affect
[00:45:35] Speaker C: you in a certain kind of way if you give it them that much room. Now, I, I mean, nobody wants to be talked poorly about or cuss or that kind of stuff, but don't let them.
[00:45:46] Speaker D: Don't never give them people more elevation than they deserve because the best of them, the best of them would write
[00:45:51] Speaker C: on, on some of these platforms.
[00:45:53] Speaker D: So don't go, don't worry about that.
[00:45:55] Speaker K: I feel that those who have the power to say to individuals, be responsible
[00:46:01] Speaker D: with your words, man, please.
[00:46:04] Speaker K: You just can't just say anything.
And it isn't based on far core truth.
We are adults and each individual that speaks or have a platform should just be responsible and own what they say or own what they do. And I just want to say that I'll hang up and listen to what you have to say.
[00:46:24] Speaker C: Understood?
Understood.
But I appreciate what you're saying, but my friend, it ain't gonna happen. It ain't gonna happen. This will not happen.
It will not happen. They're gonna let people say what they
[00:46:36] Speaker D: say, do what they do, cuss who
[00:46:37] Speaker C: they cuss and whatever.
[00:46:38] Speaker D: Ain't no problem.
[00:46:40] Speaker C: Don't, don't lose no sleep.
People got to be themselves, man, they gotta do them.
This text is that Rollins was on his feet when pick stocks and what he said was I call no names. But the other side has unsettling problems with the medical profession.
Okay, who the cap fits, let their head get slap off.
Okie dokie.
[00:47:12] Speaker D: We have another call on the line. Go ahead caller, we're listening to you.
[00:47:15] Speaker J: Good day, Mr. Lang.
[00:47:17] Speaker C: Hey, what's going on?
[00:47:18] Speaker D: Mr. Lang?
[00:47:19] Speaker J: Yes, in this third world country, I, I just kind of be foreseeful so I trying to know something and this third world country that we live in, in the Bahamas, when the Prime Minister speak to all the uniform branches, do they have to listen or they just do what they want to do?
[00:47:38] Speaker C: No, they have to listen.
[00:47:40] Speaker J: Okay, now my point, my point is now you have a government who was allegedly protecting a other person who was be mix up and mix up who it is, who agency in this country and this little third world country could go against the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister don't want nobody to investigate instead of people who could go above him and do that.
[00:48:09] Speaker C: Well, first, firstly, let me tell you the, the no public official who works for the government of the Bahamas is under any obligation to follow an unlawful request by the Prime Minister or anybody else. So that's the first thing. So, so no minister or prime minister can say to some civil servant, do this thing and that thing is illegal.
[00:48:32] Speaker D: Secondly, the enforcement of the law, insofar
[00:48:37] Speaker C: as the penal code name is concerned, it rests with the Commissioner of police.
[00:48:42] Speaker D: And if the commissioner.
Hold on. And if the commissioner and her officers believe a crime has been committed, the commissioner and her officers have every right.
No one can tell the commissioner, don't arrest that person. They can't, they can't do it. Now when the commissioner goes and takes that person for prosecution, the prosecution could
[00:49:02] Speaker C: decide, well, we will do something or not do something.
[00:49:05] Speaker D: And we have an independent prosecutor, so nobody's supposed to be able to tell them what to do.
[00:49:11] Speaker J: Don't.
That's why I say this a third world country, the Prime Minister, everything stop at him if you don't want.
[00:49:19] Speaker D: No, no, no, except, except, no, no, except. No, no, no, no, except you don't know and you have no evidence to support that the Prime Minister's issued any instruction to anybody not to do their
[00:49:30] Speaker C: duties insofar as enforcing the law.
[00:49:33] Speaker D: So don't do that. Don't do that.
Secondly, let me tell you something. Secondly, let me tell you something. Reference to third world countries is not a reference to poverty under development and
[00:49:44] Speaker C: all that kind of stuff, as lots of people believe.
[00:49:46] Speaker D: It's a reference. So you have the first worlds in quote, which were discovered first, second worlds in, quote, which was discovered then, and then these last words like ours, which were discovered after that. We talk about developed countries, developing countries and underdeveloped countries in economic poverty, development terms.
[00:50:03] Speaker J: Well, Mr. Jones, I still say.
I'm still sorry about that, sir.
[00:50:14] Speaker D: You know, I ain't playing with you.
[00:50:16] Speaker J: Yeah, I'm still saying. I'm still saying, right, the box stop at the Prime Minister. He don't want you investigating nothing.
Nothing.
[00:50:30] Speaker D: It is possible that a relationship could
[00:50:32] Speaker C: exist between a prime Minister and a
[00:50:35] Speaker D: commissioner, police or some other enforcement officer in which the Prime Minister could. That is possible. That is possible. We don't know that to be the case, but it is possible.
[00:50:44] Speaker J: Okay, Mr. Lang, this country is being run like. Like. I don't know what I. I don't know. I just can't put my sting on it. But I know one thing in this country right now. What. We living in the country. The country seems to be going in a backward stage. It ain't going forward. To me, why I say that is that if the. If right now, the.
[00:51:08] Speaker I: The.
[00:51:08] Speaker K: The.
[00:51:08] Speaker J: The Prime Minister get up one morning and he said, listen, I want to do this, I want to do that.
[00:51:13] Speaker D: He makes.
[00:51:14] Speaker J: He makes the law, and the host, right, he do anything he thinks go. And we know that
[00:51:22] Speaker C: you prime ministers have a lot of power.
Prime ministers have a lot of power in the Bahamas. I cannot lie to you.
[00:51:31] Speaker D: But, but, but this prime Minister also has a.
[00:51:35] Speaker C: On a matter of public record where
[00:51:38] Speaker D: any number of people, including the. The president of the Teachers Union, has said that the Prime Minister has given instructions for things to be done, and those things have not been done.
[00:51:50] Speaker J: I don't know.
That's only a fake thing, man. If the Prime Minister wants something.
[00:51:56] Speaker C: I agree with you 100. I agree with you 100
[00:52:00] Speaker J: in the world. Our investigation, he. He run the whole house. Look at the woman. The who in the house. She's telling you now that she don't want no investigation be done.
[00:52:10] Speaker C: I got you, brother. I appreciate you calling. Appreciate you calling.
[00:52:13] Speaker D: We got another call on the line.
[00:52:14] Speaker C: Go ahead, caller, we're listening to you.
[00:52:16] Speaker P: Yes, good afternoon. Brother.
[00:52:17] Speaker D: Language.
[00:52:19] Speaker I: What's up?
[00:52:19] Speaker P: Yeah, I appreciate your sincerity, but, you know, I agree with your last statements. I also agree with the caller, you know, but the thing is, Ms. Mr. Lang, we need a revolution of the mind. When you see, you know, I read the headlines. I was incorrect by saying, don't read the headlines, read between the lines. I'm reading the headlines and I'm reading between the lines. These conversations are quite clear to me, but I don't want to talk about that. I missed the first hour of your show, but there's a text that you read. When I first walked in, I was impressed with the person. It may be a lady that texted and they talk about the blind adherence to political stoops, etc. Etc. And et cetera, et cetera. I agree with that text wholeheartedly.
I don't want to digress your conversation, but I read something disturbing a couple days ago in the Tribune of the Guardian. Right. And I just like you to opine because it concerns my fellow beheming citizens. So I was wondering what type of impetus is this is the wards off crowdfunding in which there was an article saying that Bohemian investors, some 900 or whatever, losing their investment into this Red Lobster entity, right. And it run over the legalities of it and the liquidators and they're saying that the people wouldn't be compensated for whatever they induced into the fund.
And also I'd like you to comment on the fact that when we talk about the contracts and the death of certain government departments, so to speak, and then the private contracts, like is it to me, is there any doubt of the pool which fund is more financially sound? Like let's say with the garbage collection, the government would get rid of that entity. I would like to know, is it cheaper for the behemoth taxpayers with not having to pay pensions and pay the workers versus the contracts and all that? Because it seems asinine to me that everything would be contracted out, even it relates to renting buildings. I'll line up and listen. I hope, you know, I mean, I guess it's.
[00:54:15] Speaker C: Thanks a lot. That's.
[00:54:15] Speaker D: That's a lot.
[00:54:16] Speaker C: But first of all, investments are private contracts between the investor in whom they invest and every investment has risk.
Sometimes the risks are low, sometimes the risks are medium, sometimes the risks are high. Risk means there is the possibility of loss, not just partial loss, but total loss.
So if you invest in a company, as long as the company, if they issued a public offering in compliance with the rules of disclosure under the laws of the Bahamas, the securities laws of the Bahamas. And if you take a loss, nobody has any obligation to compensate you for anything other than in the course of liquidation.
If the company goes into liquidation, there is a order or precedence in relation to compensation for debt holders versus equity holders. Those things fall in place, but nobody's obligated to pay you anything. If you suffer a loss, you don't share your gains when you suffer a victory from your investment. So that's the first thing. Secondly, to know whether something is more cost effective, you'd have to get some numbers and so on. The particular and individual.
Individual situation. So I couldn't offhand say, yes, it's better to lease, or no, it's better to not lease. I can't say that just by virtue of some broad statement.
[00:55:48] Speaker D: All right, we have another caller on the line. Go ahead, caller.
[00:55:51] Speaker C: We're listening to you.
[00:55:52] Speaker K: Mr. Lane.
[00:55:53] Speaker C: Hey, what's up?
[00:55:54] Speaker K: Yeah, I just want to refute with that. Caller said, I work for government in two different sectors at two different times.
[00:56:05] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:56:06] Speaker K: At that time, the first time I was employed by the Government Department.
There was a minister who was a family member of ours, and I was telling my brother about a position that was available.
And so I said, man, my.
My brother would be good for this position. The minute the minister sent his application and all his documents, and when he. We followed up a few months later, he said they could not find my brother's documents and he missed the timeline to get in.
Well, we was in watching that they wanted another job.
Come to find out a couple months later, they had hit his application form under some files to the bottom of the file cabinet.
I'm saying this to say that you can be the Prime Minister or the minister, and you can send out directives and instructions and the people who are in central government, all right, Those personal
[00:57:19] Speaker J: workers, they do their own thing.
[00:57:22] Speaker C: Yeah, but let me. Let me say this to you. Let me say this to you as somebody who served as a Cabinet minister. Served as a Cabinet minister.
If somebody sends me an application for something and says, Mr. Lang, I want you to consider this.
[00:57:36] Speaker D: It is my executive professional management responsibility to follow that through to the end, not to rely on just, oh, I. The minister. So do what I say. No, where's this matter, the deadline coming? I don't see X, Y and Z and so forth. So, no, I'm not naming no civil servants for that.
[00:57:57] Speaker K: Anytime you fill out an obligation form for the public service, if they send in three quarters of it, but don't send the entire thing, it cannot be processed.
[00:58:07] Speaker C: No, no, no, bro. No, bro.
[00:58:09] Speaker D: First of all, you use it, you would be using special privileges with access to the minister to get something done for you. If that's true and he is your family member and interested in getting it done, then he would have done the Necessary.
[00:58:23] Speaker C: So it's the full application then.
[00:58:25] Speaker D: No minister, this one. What you mean you don't. Can't find this, can't find the next day, and you say, okay, no problem. Call you up and say, listen, tell him, send this back in here quickly. So forth, so forth. So, no, I ain't blaming no civil servant for that. You know, the minister was a lazy somebody who doesn't have enough interest to get your matter pursued. And that's what happened.
[00:58:43] Speaker K: Let me tell you why I say what I say, right?
When my brother needed his documents, a particular document, and I went into the office and I said to them, I. My brother needs this document. It is difficult for him to get this particular document that he filled. I saw when they went underneath the cabinet and got this particular document.
[00:59:11] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, no.
[00:59:12] Speaker D: But you're talking about half of the fact. Because you didn't tell me that the deadline had passed, so that would have had to be. Not for the fact. I'm saying to you, any minister worth his. His weight in salt, if he's interested or she's interested, to get a matter done, that is not.
[00:59:26] Speaker B: Ain't no issue.
[00:59:29] Speaker D: I had a man came to me who had retired from teaching, and he came to me with almost tears in his eyes, his teacher, he said, Mr. Lang, I have been now retired two years and I can't get my pension. Two years. I had become Minister of State for Finance. To me, that man came to me a week or so later and he said, Mr. Lang, thank you very much. My pension is now coming.
All right, man, listen, man, let's stop making excuses.
Bro, I can hear you. I didn't hear you. And I'm telling you, a minister with his or her weight in salt is
[01:00:06] Speaker C: able to get things done if it's lawful. Things to be done.
[01:00:10] Speaker D: Now, seven thing for you, cheating for somebody, you're trying to get somebody in and all these other people deserve it
[01:00:15] Speaker C: and so forth, and they decide that they're going to slow this down and what have you, and so forth and so forth.
[01:00:20] Speaker I: That.
[01:00:20] Speaker D: That still doesn't stop you from getting
[01:00:22] Speaker C: done what you want to get done if you're the minister.
I tell you all, don't Z live is the wrong place to come to
[01:00:32] Speaker D: blame civil servants, because most civil servants
[01:00:34] Speaker C: are professional people and they also people. And if they don't like some nasty
[01:00:37] Speaker D: things happening, yeah, maybe sometimes one or two of them might decide to do
[01:00:41] Speaker C: X, Y and Z. But if you're a minister and this is something that's lawful, and you won't get it done. It's government policy. You'll get it done.
[01:00:48] Speaker D: Period.
[01:00:51] Speaker C: Going to take a break, ladies and gentlemen. You're listening to Z Live. I'm Shabbat Lang, your host. We'll be back after this break.
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[01:04:11] Speaker C: Good afternoon. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to Z Live.
I'M Chavago Lang, your host, Marie. Some of these texts for you. This text is. Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. I love your show. The Prime Minister wants to hide behind parliamentary processes instead of showing decisive leadership and ask for the resignation of Minister of Fanon. The facts are already clear, so there is little need for a lengthy committee process.
An immediate action should be taken. He just needs to be brave.
Right? He isn't asking the Committee on Privilege to look at Mr. Hakitas. He's asking the Committee on Privilege to look at what was said said by Crazy Thompson.
So I hope that's clear to you.
[01:04:56] Speaker D: This text says.
[01:04:56] Speaker C: Good afternoon, Mr. Lang. Concerning words that are reckless and may incite violence and harm to any individual should not be and must be followed by an apology and addressed as a subject matter to be used as an example as to what not to do. I greet you.
This text says. That text is the donkey of the day. Shake my head, say get over it. Some people just.
I agreed you.
This text has sucked my teeth. This country can't give up though.
Don't give up. No, we can't give up in the Bahamas, man. That's what we got.
It's a good crunchy. We just need to do something reference to an independent cop.
Let me remind of incident of the PM feeding the cop a piece of cake. All I'm saying in reception perception is important.
[01:05:46] Speaker D: We had a call on the line. Go ahead, call over.
[01:05:48] Speaker C: Listening to you.
[01:05:49] Speaker I: Hey, line.
[01:05:54] Speaker D: Hey, I'm listening to you. What's up?
[01:05:56] Speaker J: I just wanted.
[01:05:57] Speaker I: I wanted to make a comment on this Prime Minister thing that you were just talking about before you went to break. Right, right.
Because I, I too many people are of the view of what the caller was which you were trying to distribute some of.
[01:06:14] Speaker J: Right.
[01:06:15] Speaker I: So I wanted to add to that because I find it absolutely necessary if it's the government policy, the executive government policy being being the cabinet supported the Prime Minister mandated and or the Minister of Finance mandated or desired. Anyone who seeks to stop or slow down their decision making is in preach and can be seen as insubordinate or grossly insubordinate.
[01:06:44] Speaker J: And we both know what can happen
[01:06:46] Speaker I: in a case like that.
[01:06:47] Speaker J: Chicago, as long as the order is not illegal, as you pointed out.
[01:06:51] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[01:06:52] Speaker I: There is no one, there is no
[01:06:53] Speaker J: one that is subject to or a creature of instruction that works in the government, in the service of the government in the way of a request or an auto being executed.
[01:07:08] Speaker C: Absolutely not. No, I said absolutely not.
[01:07:10] Speaker D: I agreed you 100 and so and
[01:07:12] Speaker I: so I'm ending right here.
[01:07:13] Speaker J: Chabago. And so. And so. And so. Chebago. That you know, that in essence, chivago. That's almost like a. And I don't want to say it,
[01:07:24] Speaker I: but I'm going to say it anyway.
[01:07:25] Speaker J: That's like a game that people play on people, right? When they don't want to take responsibility for not being prepared to tell an individual. I just don't want to do it.
[01:07:37] Speaker C: True, you're right sometimes.
[01:07:39] Speaker D: That's right.
[01:07:40] Speaker C: You're right sometimes.
[01:07:41] Speaker D: But politicians playing the game where they
[01:07:43] Speaker C: start saying, oh man, oh man, these people, them slow and everything that you know.
[01:07:49] Speaker D: You know, there was a time when some. Some of Ingram's people were saying that he strongly disabused them.
[01:07:59] Speaker J: And a strong prime minister like Ingram, a strong prime minister like Billy ever try that nonsense for them? And listen. And listen. That's not me saying that Christie wasn't strong because that didn't happen under no Christie cabinet idol. Right? And that's not me saying that current Prime Minister Davis isn't strong. Although he is humble, he is extremely strong and very impactful.
[01:08:27] Speaker D: But you know.
[01:08:28] Speaker C: But you know why mostly it doesn't happen, Anton?
[01:08:30] Speaker D: It mostly does not happen because the civil service is professional group.
[01:08:35] Speaker J: Precisely. And that's the next thing.
That's the next thing. Those who sit in positions of authority understand the rules and regulations and understand the do's and the don'ts. And so you don't have that issue.
[01:08:48] Speaker C: I gotta go to my break. I gotta go to my break. But thanks a lot for calling. Ladies and gentlemen. We're gonna take a our final break and then when we come back, we will read more of your text, take more of your calls. You're listening to Z Live. I'm Chagalang, your host.
[01:09:14] Speaker B: Let me know that you're not alone. Other if you feel like you. You make the claim.
[01:09:24] Speaker D: You try to rest.
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[01:10:46] Speaker A: This is Guardian Radio, 96.9 FM. Fresh news, smart talk all day
[01:10:55] Speaker K: I'm
[01:10:56] Speaker B: not afraid I'm not afraid to take a stand Take a stand Everybody, everybody come take my Come take my we'll walk this road together through the storm Whatever weather, cold, the warm Let me know that you're not alone.
[01:11:21] Speaker C: Welcome back. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to Z Live. I'm Shivabur Lang, your host. So glad you could join us here today day on Guardian Radio 96.9 FM. Tomorrow I'm going to be taking up again the issue of the budget and the budget debate because it seems eerily interesting to me that so many of
[01:11:44] Speaker D: the pertinent issues that the public has
[01:11:47] Speaker C: concerns about, that the media has concerns about, are not being addressed in the budget debate. Notwithstanding that the minister has communicated his budget. The minister has so spoken on his first reading communication to start off the debate, the second, whatever the second reading or whatever it is.
[01:12:12] Speaker D: But some of these matters have not
[01:12:14] Speaker C: been touched on, have not been clarified,
[01:12:16] Speaker D: have not been made sense of, whether
[01:12:21] Speaker C: that's the vouchers or the seven or the surplus and all the arrears owed by the government.
[01:12:30] Speaker D: And I'm not going to let them go.
I'm not going to let them go because these are important and I think we ought to vet them and we ought to speak about them and discuss them and express our interests and concerns and curiosity regarding these matters.
See, one of the dangers that we have in, in what happens in our politics is people make you think that this only about the F and M raising the issue or the PLP raising the issue. That's nonsense because it pretends that the media ain't asking these issues.
The citizenry ain't asking these issues.
The talk show hosts are not asking these issues. No, these issues. Transcendental concerns by the opposition and pray God they do their job just as we pray God the government does its job.
But no, man, you, you gotta listen when the public says, what is happening with my money?
What you doing with my money? That's important. That's important. That's important. To get governance.
It's important these you know how people wait for money and then have to pay the money in taxes.
You got to know you're getting the most out your money. Especially want to know people ain't doing no food with your money. You want no people aren't corruptly dispensing your money here, there and everywhere, mismanaging your money. You want to know that that's important.
You can't get offended if people asking questions so that they could be satisfied that that's not happening. Think about that for a moment. That's the nature of the question. The question isn't being asked simply because I, I won't prove you are corrupt. Because if the question being answered proves you're corrupt, then I ask the question correct.
If the question is answered. So now that you approve, now that you're not corrupt, then that's wonderful for the country that you're not wasting money. Wonderful for the country.
Anytime you have a government FMPLP or coi, a DNA or anybody that is unwilling to disinterested in answering questions, you know something is wrong.
You can believe that. You and I both know that.
You know, if people asking you questions in your personal life and you don't answer, you know why you answer.
And they're not entitled to answers from you in private life. But in public life you entitled to an answer.
You can't answer.
[01:15:00] Speaker B: You.
[01:15:00] Speaker D: The government is entitled to answer. You obligated to do so. Otherwise, it's not a good government.
I don't care what you say, it's
[01:15:08] Speaker C: not a good government.
[01:15:08] Speaker D: A good government would not run from answering questions. A good government would not duck on dodge answering questions. A good government would not gaslight you on answering questions. A good government would not mislead you in answering questions. It would not give you misinformation. You. It will not give you inaccurate information.
Not no good government would not do that.
That's an easy, easy, easy one. To conclude, this text says, could you possibly touch on the government's VAT cuts on foods and what it would actually
[01:15:39] Speaker C: take to reduce food cost?
[01:15:42] Speaker D: That's if you haven't already.
Well, to the extent that if the
[01:15:48] Speaker C: government cuts VAT that can can lower cost of food on those items where the bad is cut, that can.
However, if that cut is, if that cut is counteracted by inflation or by
[01:16:07] Speaker D: some increase in cost to the producer, who then changes the price to account
[01:16:16] Speaker C: for that cost, then it could actually do nothing.
[01:16:18] Speaker D: So what would it take to actually reduce food costs?
[01:16:22] Speaker C: A lot of things, my friend, quite frankly, I do not see a situation
[01:16:28] Speaker D: in which the cost of food is going down anytime soon, if ever not down, maybe slow in the rate at which it increases, but not go down. So if I'm new, I'm focused on how to better afford food, how to better manage my costs, but don't look for any decreasing cost to give you some relief.
[01:16:50] Speaker C: The government ain't gonna do it and
[01:16:51] Speaker D: it is not gonna happen. In terms of the general economic circumstances, if you see food costs go down significantly, the world's economy is in plenty trouble.
Plenty trouble.
[01:17:03] Speaker C: Okay, this text says good day. Westminster procedures and norms are only of value when applied to the opposition. Laugh out loud. Look up.
[01:17:12] Speaker D: That's a good point. It says, top notch, Mr. Lang.
[01:17:15] Speaker C: Yes, yes, I took it top notch.
[01:17:16] Speaker D: I never forget.
[01:17:17] Speaker C: Remember that name. I just remember top. That's what I remember.
[01:17:21] Speaker D: It says the high ranking politician, number
[01:17:24] Speaker C: one, by virtue of being in quote, high ranking, is in a position to propose an advocate for laws and policies
[01:17:31] Speaker D: to protect both themselves and their cocaine trafficking network. They also have billions in treasury dollars to potentially redirect to their personal gain and protection. Day 500+ and the Police Commissioner is
[01:17:45] Speaker C: still silent in his last term. Said he was going to look into the matter too. And he has gotten and brought no report on that matter since. Not from that first indictment he has not.
[01:17:57] Speaker D: It says who is the lawyer? Did they work for the PM's law firm?
[01:18:02] Speaker C: We know nothing about who the lawyer was.
[01:18:04] Speaker D: All.
[01:18:05] Speaker C: All that we are told is that a lawyer did introduce him.
[01:18:09] Speaker D: So there are no facts and quote the registry documents.
[01:18:14] Speaker C: There are no facts.
The registry documents, what does that mean, no facts? You got a certified register, a register of directors of a board and that in fact, stupidness.
[01:18:28] Speaker D: Do you have a call on the line? Go ahead caller, we're listening to you.
[01:18:32] Speaker E: Hello? Good day, Mr. Lang, how are you?
[01:18:34] Speaker C: I am okay.
[01:18:35] Speaker D: And yourself?
[01:18:36] Speaker E: I'll be good.
[01:18:38] Speaker C: Good.
[01:18:38] Speaker E: Okay, so in regard to that, anyway, I'm not even going there. But Mr. Lang, you are a good economic analyst, aren't you?
[01:18:53] Speaker C: Well, I know some things about economics, that's for sure.
[01:18:56] Speaker E: Okay, but in regard the political, right, I want you to answer me. Political analyst, right?
I want you to answer me this question.
[01:19:10] Speaker Q: Why?
[01:19:11] Speaker E: Why was there a switch?
Okay. Chester Cooper, who resolved. Okay. And he's doing very well. According to the report, he was switched with Ms. The Honorable Glenn and Martin. She's now in charge of tourism and he's in charge of valet education.
I want you to please explain to that Something. I don't know. There is something. Okay. I want you as a political analyst to me. Please. I want to. Hold on. Don't hang. Don't go.
[01:19:46] Speaker I: Hang on.
[01:19:47] Speaker E: So first please stop what you say. I can't speculate.
[01:19:53] Speaker C: Firstly, this.
[01:19:54] Speaker D: The switch is because that's what the Prime Minister wanted.
[01:19:56] Speaker C: That's. That's.
[01:19:57] Speaker D: That's. Everybody serves at the Prime Minister's pleasure.
[01:20:00] Speaker C: Where you are in health or education or national security, you go where the
[01:20:04] Speaker D: Prime Minister sends you.
[01:20:05] Speaker C: It's just. It's his cabinet. He puts you where he wants.
[01:20:07] Speaker D: Now there is no question in the politics of the matter that. That it would appear that Mr. Cooper was given a kind of message that you are not what you were before in terms of your political standing with regard to the Prime Minister. There's no question but that still Deputy Prime Minister still have a heavy important ministry. But I have moved you to show you something. That's. That's. That's what most. That's what some political analysts would. Would take that move to me.
It was a check by the Prime Minister.
[01:20:46] Speaker J: Hello.
[01:20:48] Speaker E: Why would they put Ms. The Honorable Glena Sahara Martin. I know she was in charge of aviation and thing in regard to tourism.
[01:20:56] Speaker D: Because she.
Because she's one of the most senior and she has an effective minister.
There is nowhere they could put Glenisana Martin. And I don't believe.
[01:21:09] Speaker C: And I. And I believe that she will not do a.
[01:21:11] Speaker D: Do a good job nowhere.
I believe that anywhere she. Let's just to be clear, sir, I
[01:21:16] Speaker C: don't do any double negatives like anybody else.
[01:21:18] Speaker E: Yes, sir. Yeah.
[01:21:19] Speaker D: Just to be clear, anywhere you put
[01:21:21] Speaker C: Glennis Hannah Martin the Honorable. I believe she will do an effective.
[01:21:24] Speaker E: And I told you I agree with you.
But sir, why they put.
You could put chest. You could put the honorable Chester Cooper anywhere. What why should them. Do you think maybe. And I. I think I got dying about this. But you can cut me.
[01:21:44] Speaker D: But I'm not gonna cut you because you try to play cue with me. You and you. You and me know politically speaking what you think it is. Which is it was a message. You are now where he was at a good and high place. But she is now where you are in a high place.
[01:22:02] Speaker E: Anyway.
[01:22:11] Speaker D: Anyway, you're being very mischievous.
Ladies and gentlemen, you've been listening to Z live. I'm Chevalgo Lang, your host. So glad that you could join us here today on Guardian Radio. God spells life. We'll be back with you again tomorrow.
[01:22:26] Speaker C: Y' all have a great afternoon.
[01:22:32] Speaker B: Not afraid to take a stand, take a stand Everybody, everybody come take my Come take my we'll walk this road together through the storm Whatever weather, cold, the warm Just let me know that you're not alone I love if you feel like you been down the same road.
